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Auto carrier ship burning off Holland now reported to have had nearly 500, not 25 electric vehicles on board
American Thinker ^ | 08/01/2023 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 08/01/2023 7:32:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
At some point the insurers will stop writing policies.

The "green coalition" communists should be sent the bill for the damage to the environment.

They want to push electric cars, let them pay the bills.

21 posted on 08/01/2023 9:18:10 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

what about the environmental impact?


22 posted on 08/01/2023 9:37:30 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tow it to deep water. The fires will go out when it sinks.


23 posted on 08/01/2023 9:47:29 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-geologist- instructor pilot-almost chemist-pharmacist-retired.)
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To: Noumenon
I wonder how much longer before shipping companies refuse to handle EVs.

In a sane world, it wouldn't be long at all. Unfortunately, sanity is in short supply.

24 posted on 08/01/2023 11:59:36 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

If they keep shipping EVs, their freighters will be in short supply.


25 posted on 08/01/2023 1:05:43 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Noumenon

Insurance started in the shipping industry. I would expect that shippers will start limiting the number of EVs per shipment & raise rates increasing the costs of EVs.


26 posted on 08/02/2023 3:37:12 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Mean Daddy

True. That was Lloyd’s of London. But even one bad battery pack is enough to sink the ship. It’s like a giant unquenchable thermite bomb.


27 posted on 08/02/2023 5:05:43 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: SeekAndFind
Updated:

BMW AG’s Rolls-Royce has a small number of its exclusive cars aboard the ship that went up in flames off the Dutch coast a week ago.

The maker of €500,000 luxury vehicles is informing affected clients personally, a spokesperson said Wednesday in an email. While both BMW and Mercedes-Benz Group AG confirmed they have several hundred cars on the Fremantle Highway, neither have offered specific breakdowns by brand or model.

Ouch.

28 posted on 08/03/2023 11:07:03 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Dang. They’re going to have to start insisting on EV-only shipments. That’ll at least minimize the collateral damage.


29 posted on 08/03/2023 11:46:48 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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Maybe Yellow Freight can get back into business as a carrier for LTL specialty auto shipments.

Maybe the first step is to treat all lithium batteries on a boat like UPS does: No air.

Ground only.

(Not sure how to make that work across the Atlantic or Pacific but ...)

OTOH, wonder how much transocean shipping insurance has gone up for EV cars?

If I had bought a McLaren, a Koenigsegg, a Maserati or a Lamborghini, for a couple of million each, I would request a cargo flight.


30 posted on 08/04/2023 6:54:05 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“They want to push electric cars, let them pay the bills”

With our money...?


31 posted on 08/13/2023 3:43:45 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦...................."Who is Ray Epps?" should be overstamped on every piece of currency.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a hoot...

Burning Questions: Unraveling the Truth Behind Electric Vehicle Fires in Maritime Shipping

And note the use of the word "proven".

(chortle)

32 posted on 08/13/2023 3:59:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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It gets better...

Fremantle Highway blaze throws electric vehicle risk into sharp relief, say insurers Underwriters call for better detection and extinguishing systems to prevent battery fires from spreading

But didn't the IUMI just assert there were no proven cases...?

33 posted on 08/13/2023 4:01:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Salt water is a massive conductor of electricity.

Is transporting 500 electric vehicles with their lithium ion batteries at sea with the salty sea air and dampness and water everywhere really a good idea?

-PJ

34 posted on 08/13/2023 4:01:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mewzilla
Oh, boy, on the offloading and salvage issues...

The 500 unburned EVs also pose another risk on the Fremantle Highway

Can they even safely offload the damn things...

35 posted on 08/13/2023 4:04:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Is it possible that the salt water can cause a short somewhere in the EV that causes the battery to overheat until it catches on fire?

-PJ

36 posted on 08/13/2023 4:05:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Totally safe.

Just ask the IUMI.

See my links above.

(snort)


37 posted on 08/13/2023 4:05:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

All the EV industry needs now is for an EV to catch fire on board a crowded ferry.


38 posted on 08/13/2023 4:12:43 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll just toss this in, from the UK, for a couple of reasons...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12401887/Rochford-fire-Inferno-rips-200-vehicles-Essex-scrapyard-dozens-firefighters-rush-tackle-blaze.html

There were EVs and hybrids on that lot.

The DM never mentions it.


39 posted on 08/13/2023 4:49:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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