Posted on 07/09/2023 4:08:14 PM PDT by thegagline
The Supreme Court’s decision banning college-admission based on race was a good first step, but the challenge now is to see that schools abide by it.
Indeed, no sooner did the court rule than President Joe Biden vowed not to let the decision “be the last word.” *** Back in 1998, I knew my odds of getting into medical school, as an Indian-American, would be better if I were black.
So, being dark-skinned, I pretended I was black — and got accepted, despite a mediocre 3.1 GPA.
Once there, though, I found the going rough and dropped out. *** More than a 100 colleges and universities, including the entire Ivy League, had filed amicus briefs backing Harvard and University of North Carolina’s admission practices, which the court now deemed discriminatory. *** These schools have collected tens of billions in taxpayer dollars and sent millions of rejection letters to applicants whose only fault may have been their race. *** Theoretically, schools that had endorsed affirmative action could continue to cloak such discriminatory practices in defiance of the court. They could employ stealthy, complex admissions algorithms that make it hard to identify their illegal scheme. *** With the court’s ruling, these leaders can now move to withhold federal funding from the Department of Education, Department of Justice and the universities themselves if they fail to enforce the court’s ruling.
Officials might also look to devise additional punishments as well, for school officials and the schools themselves, including loss of accreditation, a powerful weapon. *** Surely officials can come up with other ways, too, to enforce compliance and design a routine for regularly examining, supervising and auditing these institutions until this scourge is truly behind us. *** I am hopeful that this is the beginning of the end of affirmative action. ***
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Soul Man (1986) movie.
“In order to win a scholarship and attend law school, Mark Watson (C. Thomas Howell), the white son of an affluent psychiatrist, pretends to be black on his application form.
When he’s accepted, he alters his hair, skin and speech to conceal his true identity.
And two white basketball coaches fighting physically over who can have him on their team (calling him “Marcus” instead of Mark). But because he’s actually secretly white they discover he is clumsy and unable to play good basketball.
My wife was referred to a ‘doctor who looks like America’. I then gave her the benefit of the doubt, figuring if she had immigrated as an adult (she had an ‘exotic’ sounding name), she would be well educated, or if she had graduated long ago, she might be well educated. It was neither, she was a local, who went to school in the US, at a crappy school none the less. I called in, cancelled, and the receptionist was pissed - almost like she understood why.
Oh well, I didn’t set the rules, but I do operate in response to them.
And yet no one pays attention to the one case before SCOTUS that could have had much more massive implications than this nonsense.
I’m sorry, but I have a really tough time giving a sh*t about some Indian, Asian or anyone else not being able to get into Harvard.
There was a far more important case and nary a person gives a damn.
But why Asians, or Latins, or people who come from Africa after slavery was abolished? (I am looking at YOU, Barrack Obama). If you come here voluntarily, but are a minority, why do you warrant special treatment? Succeed or fail on your own merit.
Thomas Sowell opposes affirmative action largely because it sets up the intended beneficiaries for failure. Getting acceptance to a difficult school was easier than staying the course. The AA students have a high dropout ratio because they are competing against better prepared students. Whereas, if the AA student had attended a school more in line with his or her aptitude and GPA, college would more likely have been a successful experience.
I should say, on the other side of the argument, I knew a guy who had major surgery and I needed someone to look at my problem, which was similar.
So he referred me to someone who ‘looks like America’, and was clearly born here. Did a great job with me, also. What’s funny is that the guy who referred me made Alex Jones look like a Leftist...but still nailed it with this doctor, who, I have to admit, is now close to 70 years old, so he was actually required to learn something before being licensed.
Succeed or fail on your own merit.
I think the argument is, that Affirmative Action took that away. I saw two folks going at it on tv and one said that blacks have the lowest everything in law schools, etc, yet they have an easier time getting in.
At the end of the day all of this...Affirmative Action, student loans, and whatever else SCOTUS decided on, was all drummed up by really crappy politicians.
And, IMHO, the Moore case out of NC could have went a long way in helping fix a system where you, me and everyone else are backed into corners to vote for the candidate that was handpicked by the RNC, DNC, Establishment, UNIPARTY, whatever you want to call them.
But it appears that SCOTUS decided to get involved in state elections, even though the Constitution says it’s the state legislatures job and also while stating after the 2020 elections that they couldn’t hear any cases because they were state matters and SCOTUS had no jurisdiction.
Went to med school in the 80’s.
If a white or Asian kid flunked classes he was forced to drop out. Black kids got to try again.
That was almost 40 years ago!
Thomas Sowell made an argument that the only moral case for a “leg up” was one of economic class. For example, is the son\daughter of a black lawyer\doctor more deserving than the son\daughter of a white Kentucky coal miner? There are plenty of blacks who come from lower economic means that would get their “leg up” by doing AA that way. However, this “economic class conscious AA” wouldn’t be exclusive to one race and there lies the rub!
There is systematic racism and it is against white people.
It also perpetuates the idea that black people can’t make it on their own.
Went to med school in the 80’s. If a white or Asian kid flunked classes he was forced to drop out. Black kids got to try again.
Went to USAF pilot training in 1990
If a White male flunked, he was forced out. Women, Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians got to try again.
* Unless the white male was politically connected.
“So, being dark-skinned, I pretended I was black — and got accepted, despite a mediocre 3.1 GPA.”
If that was a BA degree that is mediocre grade.
My STEM BS degree I was 3.5 but I worked full time and was raising a family.
If I didn’t have those anchors I could have easily been 4.0.
I don’t think I would go to a doctor that had a “studies” degree and only got a 3.1 GPA.
See what affirmative action does to Blacks?
No matter how qualified they may be
nobody trusts them.
I tried telling people that all the “immigrants” would be considered “minorities.”
Well if they could let him in with weak grades, they could have let him get through their college with weak grades.
For what it’s worth....I’m probably only alive because of a black doctor. He decided to keep me in the hospital longer and that night my heart stopped.
So.. fortunately I got a good guy.
I personally am not guilty of anything regarding the races...if anything I should be given a “leg up” just because of the enourmous burden a certain segment has weighed us down with.....
It is unfortunate that Thomas Sowell never went into politics. At a debate, he’d run circles around his opponents.
That was withdrawn.
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