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Russian Army 'Wipes Out' over 600 Ukrainian troops; Zelensky admits 'Counteroffensive Tough'
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Posted on 06/15/2023 11:36:28 PM PDT by ganeemead

NATO and neocon lunatics responsible for this **** should burn in hell for it


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
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1 posted on 06/15/2023 11:36:28 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

pravda in Russian means “truth” but also “plumber”


2 posted on 06/15/2023 11:43:09 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: ganeemead

Well said.....”Russia has a military strategy, Ukraine has a PR strategy”


3 posted on 06/15/2023 11:47:00 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: ganeemead
neocon lunatics responsible for this **** should burn in hell for it

Still, not enough people have been killed yet. Lindsey Graham said killing Russians is the best money he's ever spent.

So why did the US and NATO direct Ukrainian mech brigades straight into Russian minefields without clearing those minefields first?

4 posted on 06/15/2023 11:49:52 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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5 posted on 06/15/2023 11:51:25 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: caww

No, Ukraine has a Biden Extortion Strategy.


6 posted on 06/15/2023 11:52:19 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Indeed.


7 posted on 06/16/2023 12:18:26 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ganeemead

But...but...the paid shils on fr told me Ukraine was destroying Russia!

Who would have guessed?


8 posted on 06/16/2023 12:25:57 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Those who thought risking this war through NATO East expansion into Ukraine was a good idea, were no friends of Ukraine.

This was/is a needless war and when it is over, Ukraine will be smaller, poorer, weaker, less stable. The only growing industry in Ukraine are the graveyards and undertakers.

But it’s a sad story for Russia too. They might accomplish their political and military objectives and thereby technically win, but at a huge cost in lives and to their military, to lesser extent their economy.

It was a senseless war based on a gamble where the Biden administration thought they could score an easy political victory on the tail of a horrible Afghanistan fiasco. They were “hoping” Russia would acquiesce, since we had been arming, training, feeding intel to the Ukrainians making a Russian invasion costly (which it is). Besides a great PR victory, NATO East expansion would please the big US corporations and financial institutions since they want this. Finally, politically it’s a great move because it keeps us relevant and influential in European politics. It is largely through NATO where we have influence in Europe and if Ukraine becomes an EU member but not a NATO member, that’s bad for us.

This was our call: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

You are right. Not enough folks have died yet, but eventually the outcome will be the same, Ukraine loses 20% of its landmass and population, an industrial area and port cities. Ukraine will not be in NATO and likely not even the EU.

The relationship between Ukraine and Biden is like a young man that goes to a car dealer who smiles at him, flatters him, and shows him all these really cool cars and gets him to buy one that is actually beyond his means. The young man thinks the car dealer is his “friend,” when in reality he’ll eventually figure out the dealer was only acting in self interest, not at all his friend, and he’s paying the price for it.

THERE WAS NO REASON (other than what benefits Biden) FOR THE CHANGE IN POLICY!

We could have continued to pursue a course where we equip Ukraine, even with weapon systems.

We could have continued to train Ukraine’s forces, to feed them intel, to slowly move closer and closer to eventual NATO membership without some abrupt declaration.

This would have made true Russian aggression costly, but it would have not put Russia in a position where they have a legit security concern/argument (NATO/US forces and equipment on their border and total loss of influence on Ukraine).

The interesting part to me is how Biden and his administration are in no way getting pressured by the media or even the Republicans really. Not even their political opposition is using this war against them, although the Democrats used Iraq starting in 2004 for their benefit in the most ruthless imaginable way, harping on our own body counts, collateral damage, misdeeds by idiots (Abu Gahrib), the cost in money and questioning the legitimacy (Bush lied people died was the slogan)...


9 posted on 06/16/2023 12:37:55 AM PDT by Red6
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Again you see this through the lens of Russian agression rather than the globohomo use of NATO to use Ukraine as their tool to expand their empire.


10 posted on 06/16/2023 1:00:33 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Governor Dinwiddie


so you feel threatened by a guy who's a good dancer, but got no problem with a pedophile groomer who openly molests innocent kids on the street

you're perverted


11 posted on 06/16/2023 1:33:22 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: ganeemead

Kramer was right!


12 posted on 06/16/2023 1:41:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Russian Army 'Wipes Out' over 600 Ukrainian troops; Zelensky admits 'Counteroffensive Tough' , canuck_conservative wrote:


so you feel threatened by a guy who's a good dancer, but got no problem with a pedophile groomer who openly molests innocent kids on the street

you're perverted

You're the first and possibly the only person to watch that Zelensky bump and grind and say he's a 'good dancer'.

You are advidly supporting perv Biden's war, even after he's been shown on tape pawing children, extorting  officals and accepting bribes from the Ukraine. You're a pervert.

13 posted on 06/16/2023 1:46:53 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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wrong again, it’s not Biden’s war, it’s Putin’s War (see tagline)

Putin is solely responsible for starting it, not the Neocons or anyone else that the Russian apologists always like to blame

and I don’t support Biden


14 posted on 06/16/2023 2:00:35 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: ganeemead

Soros/FJB will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian life while laundering as many US dollars into their pockets as they can stuff!


15 posted on 06/16/2023 2:06:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Putin is solely responsible for starting it, not the Neocons or anyone else

This is Victoria Nuland's war. Started it in 2014.

16 posted on 06/16/2023 2:08:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

No - Putin started it with the “Little Green Men” (Russian soldiers in unmarked uniforms) invasion of Crimea in 2014

stop excusing Putin - he’s solely responsible for this misery (see tagline)


17 posted on 06/16/2023 2:20:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative
Putin is solely responsible for starting it, not the Neocons or anyone else that the Russian apologists always like to blame

The war began with the US-backed coup in 2014, and Crimea and Donbass refused to recognize the coup regime. But it's best to put all events in Ukraine before February 2022 in the memory hole. It wrecks the official state narrative.

18 posted on 06/16/2023 2:21:36 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

there was no “US-backed coup”

Ukrainians found out Yanukovich was actually a Russian stooge and gave him the boot ... and he ran like a coward back to Russia

democracy in action! LOL

of course, you Russian apologists always have trouble understanding “democracy”


19 posted on 06/16/2023 2:26:05 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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“Ukrainians found out Yanukovich was actually a Russian stooge and gave him the boot”

You call that democracy? Yanukovich was known to be Russian friendly and was still legally elected as president of Ukraine.

20 posted on 06/16/2023 2:30:33 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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