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The United States blocks the sale of arms to Hungary
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Posted on 06/14/2023 7:22:52 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

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To: Erik Latranyi

“.with Obama’s blessing, who sent NO ARMS to help Ukraine at the time.”

So, Ukraine posed no threat whatsoever to Russia in 2014, yet Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and illegally annexed Crimea. Sounds rather contradictory, no?


101 posted on 06/14/2023 6:58:16 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six; Erik Latranyi

“”the ranking Republican member of the Foreign Relations Committee, is stopping the USD 735 million US arms sale to Hungary for not contributing to Sweden’s membership of NATO.””

America doesn’t have to sell anything that we don’t want to, or to customers that we don’t want to sell it to.


102 posted on 06/14/2023 7:00:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

“America doesn’t have to sell anything that we don’t want to, or to customers that we don’t want to sell it to.”

Yup.


103 posted on 06/14/2023 7:07:22 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Leaning Right

Hungary as in the Hungarian people most definitely are Americas friends and allies.

However, Orban seems to be obligated to Putin somehow. Perhaps Putin has something on Orban


104 posted on 06/14/2023 10:22:27 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Zhang Fei

To the general Hungarian on the street, even an Orban supporter, Russia is neither a friend nor an ally


105 posted on 06/14/2023 10:23:35 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Leaning Right

I don’t think it is gas that’s driving Orbans stance. His party has been promoting an irredentist movement for a greater Hungary. Plus I am pretty sure Putin has something on him.


106 posted on 06/14/2023 10:25:48 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Dr.Deth

Ww 3 is, in fact, less inevitable.

Russia has no allies bar North Korea and Belarus. And even those two won’t fight on Russia’s side.

China and India are happy enough to buy oil at 50% discount but will do nothing more.


107 posted on 06/14/2023 10:40:49 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: JonPreston

My homepage shows you as a Russian citizen.


108 posted on 06/14/2023 10:43:36 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Danie_2023
Ah yes. Wasn’t that yet another ‘wag the dog’ distraction by the Clintons?

Correct, Bill was taking heat for a BJ in the oval, so the Serbs got bombed.

Hillary is evil, pure evil. Bill just wants to have fun.

109 posted on 06/15/2023 1:20:23 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Cronos
"However it's safe here - the war is 800 miles away."

Cowardly war cheerleader.

110 posted on 06/15/2023 3:58:13 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: adorno; alexander_busek; AmericanInTokyo; ArtDodger; AZJeep; baclava; BeauBo; Berlin_Freeper; ...
This might explain something about Viktor Orbán:

Semion Mogilevich [1]

According to Litvinenko, Putin and Mogilevich had contacts since 1994 or 1993 [2]

​​​​In 2008, Mogilevich had problems with Russian authorities, which were resolved in 2009.[3]

At some point, Putin “inherited” Mogilevich-related figures such as Dietmar Clodo, Pintér and future Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán who collaborated in 1994. [4]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich
[2] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11364724/Is-this-Alexander-Litvinenkos-beyond-the-grave-attack-on-Putin.html
[3] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-crime/russia-frees-crime-boss-wanted-by-u-s-idUSTRE56Q0JT20090727
[4] http://hungarianspectrum.org/2014/12/22/the-good-name-of-sandor-pinter-minister-of-the-interior/

111 posted on 06/15/2023 5:18:54 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: JonPreston
Look to Moscow for purchases. The Russian stuff is performing better in the field.

Only if you're buying AK-47s, helicopters and artillery. Helicopters are worthless in Ukraine due to an active missile defense system. Their artillery is still pretty formidable. I guess if you're a dictator trying to suppress your citizens from revolting against you, you have no choice but to buy from the Russians.

112 posted on 06/15/2023 5:33:16 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why is it that Neocons are confused by propaganda?


113 posted on 06/15/2023 6:19:56 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: AdmSmith

/bingo


114 posted on 06/15/2023 7:05:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpers are Republicans the same way Liz Cheney is a Republican.)
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To: Cronos

MORNING VIDEOS 6-15-2023

1. Ukraine’s Move to Forge Bonds with Global South: Kyiv Convenes Peace Summit
UATV English
392K subscribers
Jun 15, 2023 8:45 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmAKFxJ8c_4

Ukraine invited Brazil and other countries of the Global South to the Peace Summit. This was announced by the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine - Andrii Yermak. According to him, the summit will be held in the near future on neutral territory.

Earlier, the heads of state and government of the 46 member states of the Council of Europe have already expressed support for the peace formula proposed by Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

2. Ukrainian fighters say they are approaching Bakhmut and have taken control of the road
Kanal13
1.58M subscribers
Jun 15, 2023 5:00 a.m. EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNMM7KHdslE

3.


115 posted on 06/15/2023 7:32:53 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: AdmSmith

Meanwhile the Biden admin just approved continued exemptions from U.S. sanctions for Samsung and TSMC (Taiwan Semicoinductor Manufacturing Company) regarding their chips and chip manufacturing plants IN CHINA. The sanctions were legitimate because both chip makers employ U.S. technology in their chips and their plants. Now Samsung and TSMC will get to expand their operations in (and for) China.

They - the Biden admin - makes a big deal about Hungary but does not mind U.S. technology getting deeper into bed with China. IDIOTS!!!!


116 posted on 06/15/2023 8:04:52 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli; AdmSmith; Cronos

I had lost count. I thought of general interest to share these stats of the number of Russian generals killed in Ukraine revealed according to Media zona’s estimate at the BEGINNING OF JUNE based on open sources:

4 Generals; 58 Colonels; 176 Lieutenant Colonels
1- Major General Kanamat Batushev
2- Major General Roman Kuchazov
3- Major General Andrew Sukovitsky
4- Major General Vladimir Frolov
5- Major Sergey Goryachev Chief of Staff of the 35th
combined arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces on
June 12th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTxFO3PMcEg


117 posted on 06/15/2023 11:08:04 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: AdmSmith

Orban has encouraged Hungary to follow a dark cultural path - what Allan Bloom called the School of Resentment / Culture of Grievances.

In that school’s thought Hungary is an eternal victim mistreated by the world and the whole purpose of the world is to hurt Hungarians and therefore Hungarians are owed by the world and they don’t need to be bound by conventional morals.

Very similar to “Critical Race Theory” and has the same roots.

That framework doesn’t make people’s lives better and Hungary is falling behind their peers.

The believers of this nonsense find common cause with other grievance culture losers like Russia and China though.


118 posted on 06/16/2023 6:12:05 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

This article by Zsuzsanna Szelenyi describes par of why Hungary is what it is today:

The Generation that Betrayed Hungarian Democracy. How did bright-eyed young liberals become populist reactionaries? A former lawmaker explains the transformation of Hungary’s ruling Fidesz party.

[Note: Liberal is European liberal, i.e. free market etc, not the leftists in the US.]

Fidesz at this time had a strong liberal voice, calling for the rule of law and transparency. But as we quickly learned, the party was not immune to power struggles, backroom deals and compromises. Elected party chairman in 1993, Orban wasted no time in taking control of Fidesz’s resources and establishing himself as unchallenged leader. He was adept at pressuring members to fall into line, building a circle of loyal cronies and followers who responded to his missionary zeal. By 1993, the party suffered deep internal divisions. The final rupture occurred when we learned that Orban and the party’s treasurer had used party funds to reap profits from a luxury car rental company, with money channelled through a crony’s enterprises.

In 1994, the liberal wing of Fidesz left the party. I was among the five MPs and several hundred members who defected. I felt that my personal integrity and political beliefs would be continually challenged if I stayed in the party of Viktor Orban. The following year, Fidesz formalised Orban’s complete authority and the party made a sharp political turn to the right. Policy was now driven by pure opportunism – like the way Fidesz leaders suddenly started participating in Catholic masses, to court religious voters.

Still, there were worrying signs of Orban’s intentions to strengthen executive power at the expense of other branches of government. Fidesz cut the length of parliamentary sessions, degrading parliamentary oversight and debate even as the party tightened its grip on state media. Another problem was corruption. I remember talking to a Fidesz lawmaker, a former colleague, who blithely explained that party members were entitled to take their share from the public pot. It was disheartening to see how crafty Fidesz was in perfecting well-worn corrupt practices, like favouring cronies with public procurements. Such crookedness laid the groundwork for greater wrongdoing after EU funds started to flow following Hungary’s accession to the bloc in 2004.

https://www.europesfutures.eu/fellow/the-generation-that-betrayed-hungarian-democracy


119 posted on 06/17/2023 10:35:59 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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