Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

House conservatives block GOP bills, voice frustration in response to last week’s debt ceiling vote
News 10 ^ | June 6, 2023

Posted on 06/06/2023 6:25:27 PM PDT by 11th_VA

WASHINGTON (AP) — House conservatives staged a mini-revolt Tuesday in retaliation for Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s leadership on last week’s vote to raise the debt ceiling, the right wing banding together to block progress on a mixture of bills and vent their frustration.

Led by outspoken members of the House Freedom Caucus, a group of 11 Republicans broke with their party on an otherwise routine procedural vote that threw the day’s schedule — and the rest of the week — into disarray. It’s the first such procedural rule vote to fail in nearly two decades.

The group is among some of the same conservative Republicans who tried to stop the debt ceiling bill from advancing last week and who then threatened to try to oust McCarthy after passage of the debt ceiling package that President Joe Biden signed into law. Short of taking that step, they have demanded a meeting with McCarthy, leaving it unclear how the standoff will be resolved.

“We’re frustrated with the way this place is operating,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., one of the more outspoken members of the group. “We’re not going to live in the era of the imperial speaker anymore.”

At issue is not just a gas stove bill and others that are now stalled as the conservatives wage their protest, but the political standing of the House Republican majority. Is it just a one-day spat that allows members to make a point or a more lasting fracture?

Just hours earlier, Republican leaders were extolling how the House Republicans had learned to work together as a team after the rocky start of the year …

(Excerpt) Read more at whec.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debt; debtceiling; house; vote
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last
Lol !!!
1 posted on 06/06/2023 6:25:27 PM PDT by 11th_VA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

Bud light McCarthy..

Just do it.


2 posted on 06/06/2023 6:31:13 PM PDT by cableguymn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cableguymn

At least there are a couple of Reps in DC who try and represent the voters. A rarity.


3 posted on 06/06/2023 6:42:22 PM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

They got the pistol brace bill on next Tuesday’s schedule because of this. McCarthy needs to choose to be Hakeem Jeffries’ bitch or the Freedom Caucus’ bitch for the long term. I bet it will be Jeffries. McCarthy is a total POS.


4 posted on 06/06/2023 6:48:07 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

For those who don’t know a rule is similar to cloture on the senate. You have to pass the rule before you pass a bill.


5 posted on 06/06/2023 6:49:17 PM PDT by cotton1706
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Shady

I appreciate their efforts


6 posted on 06/06/2023 6:56:31 PM PDT by cableguymn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA
The protracted election of McCarthy seemed to me at the time to be an exercise in futility. "Wet" politicians are incapable of drying out. They can talk a good game when they have to to survive but they revert to form once ensconced. A House Leader is a deal maker and lives to make deals. He cannot say "No farther." It is not in him.

"I made a Deal," he says. "It is better than had I just given it all away!"

1% is better than no deal at all to a Dealmaker. No deal is a failure to him. Any 'deal" is a Sucess because it is a deal. It does not matter that perhaps he has lost more than he would have won had he held the line- No Farther!.

7 posted on 06/06/2023 7:01:41 PM PDT by arthurus (T Covefe L)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cableguymn
"It’s the first such procedural rule vote to fail in nearly two decades.

I hope they keep it up.

8 posted on 06/06/2023 7:04:19 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

So, the 11 voted with the Dems on this. They voted to allow Biden to ban gas stoves. Makes them members of the Uniparty I’d say.


9 posted on 06/06/2023 7:05:57 PM PDT by Roadrunner383
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Roadrunner383

“So, the 11 voted with the Dems on this. They voted to allow Biden to ban gas stoves. Makes them members of the Uniparty I’d say.”

No. It’s phony. Because even if the Senate passed it, the president will veto it.

And they knew this. So they took the opportunity to strike a blow.


10 posted on 06/06/2023 7:23:05 PM PDT by cotton1706
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Shady

The members of the Freedom Caucus are the most conservative.

Originally it was called The Tea Party Caucus.


11 posted on 06/06/2023 7:25:20 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good-Facts is Facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Roadrunner383

No that’s not what happened.

They blocked the vote.


12 posted on 06/06/2023 7:29:38 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good-Facts is Facts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

“We’re frustrated with the way this place is operating,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla.,

Said the guy who voted “present” to allow McCarthy the speakership.

I was frustrated that SIX had the power to deny McCarthy the speakership and CAVED.

If Gaetz and his merry band of six had the courage to go with their “conservative” principles, they’d STILL be taking votes for speaker.

Or Kevin would have exercised the nuclear option and used Democrat votes.

Or Kevin would have thrown in the towel.

Gaetz got NOTHING for holding out.

McCarthy only needed 112 votes from his caucus to pass the abomination of raising the debt ceiling and KEEP his speakership.

He got thirty-some MORE than he needed.

That math was all done when Gaetz and merry band CLAIMED victory with the “restrictions” placed on McCarthy.

The so-called deal stunk when Gaetz celebrated it.

For those couldn’t smell it then, can you smell it now?


13 posted on 06/06/2023 7:46:55 PM PDT by Biblebelter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 11th_VA

Good. Someone is fighting back against those criminals.


14 posted on 06/06/2023 8:21:16 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

...but then eleven out of 435 tells a tale. Kind of like one to 435 which was the case with Ron Paul. It is also the case with the majority of State Legislatures. Too many RINO’s too few men willing to shake up the apple cart.


15 posted on 06/07/2023 1:11:31 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

I believe you are inaccurate on your take. If this passes on in the House, it is a simple majority vote in the Senate to pass the resolution which would stop the regulation of the gas stoves. Congressional Review Act actions are not able to be vetoed by the president, and there is a limited time in which they can be enacted by Congress (6 months?)


16 posted on 06/07/2023 6:35:01 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Liberalism is what Smart looks like to Stupid people - ® - Mia of KC. Rush - 1:50-8/21/15))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: AFPhys

“Congressional Review Act actions are not able to be vetoed by the president, and there is a limited time in which they can be enacted by Congress (6 months?)”

You’re incorrect. They’re still resolutions that must be signed or rejected by the president. They cannot be filibustered in the Senate, which is what I think you’re thinking of.

From Wikipedia:

The law provides a procedure for expedited consideration in the Senate. If the committee to which a joint resolution is referred has not reported it within 20 calendar days after the rule is received by Congress and published in the Federal Register, the committee may be discharged from further consideration by a written petition of 30 Senators, when the measure is placed on the calendar, and it is in order at any time for a Senator to move to proceed to the joint resolution.[9] If the Senate agrees to the non-debatable motion to proceed, debate on the floor is limited to up to 10 hours and no amendments to the resolution or motions to proceed to other business are in order. The Senate may then pass the joint resolution with a simple majority.[9] A joint resolution of disapproval meeting certain criteria cannot be filibustered.[10] For a regulation to be invalidated under the CRA, the Congressional resolution of disapproval must be either signed by the President or passed over the President’s veto by two thirds of both Houses of Congress.


17 posted on 06/07/2023 6:40:48 AM PDT by cotton1706
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: cotton1706

Thank you for correcting me. I had a misconception that a simple majority of both houses was enough. A core “official” article:

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R43992

I hope that soon we can get a sufficient majority of freedom-oriented persons in the government to get the ability to overcome the President’s massive executive branch power through these out-of-control agencies through a simple majority of Congress.


18 posted on 06/07/2023 9:01:44 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Liberalism is what Smart looks like to Stupid people - ® - Mia of KC. Rush - 1:50-8/21/15))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Syncro

One of the founders of the Freedom Caucus was a then-congressman from Florida named Ron DeSantis.


19 posted on 06/07/2023 11:45:25 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Syncro

exactly.


20 posted on 06/07/2023 4:00:51 PM PDT by Jonny7797
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson