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Ukraine, Russia trade blame for destruction of Nova Kakhovka dam
AJ ^ | 6-6-23 | Staff

Posted on 06/06/2023 3:53:22 PM PDT by wardaddy

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To: Reverend Wright

Thanks - I got it wrong.


21 posted on 06/06/2023 5:21:00 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

If you really don’t know, just ask the NSA:

https://www.nsa.gov/Helpful-Links/NSA-FOIA/Declassification-Transparency-Initiatives/Historical-Releases/Venona/

It took over 50 years for the documents to start to trickle out.


22 posted on 06/06/2023 6:19:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Thanks for the link. What a wealth of documentation, it appears to be. It will take some time just to sample it (which I will do over time). Decades back I cam across a similar archive of the evil idiocy of Goebbels, pre-WWII. Also a trove of info, which took time to sample. I was grateful for that, and am grateful to have this one to sample. History is sometimes better “read” by reading original documents. Again, thanks.
23 posted on 06/06/2023 6:58:55 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: BenLurkin; dfwgator

Hmmmmm......now, wait a minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44JQWLqrCY


24 posted on 06/06/2023 8:50:35 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: CatHerd; Worldtraveler once upon a time; El Cid; wardaddy

Verona
Vorona

It’s “the Venona Papers”. You’re welcome.

https://www.nsa.gov/Helpful-Links/NSA-FOIA/Declassification-Transparency-Initiatives/Historical-Releases/Venona/


25 posted on 06/06/2023 9:24:57 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham
LOL!
Actually I have the book upstairs, and I could have just checked it. But I’ll just wing it. Thanks for the correction.
26 posted on 06/06/2023 9:41:56 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: ransomnote

My homie!

/s


27 posted on 06/06/2023 10:02:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (Technology is not by default an improvement )
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To: Pelham

My Verona !

Annette loves that song


28 posted on 06/06/2023 10:14:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (Technology is not by default an improvement )
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To: wardaddy
We know who did it but that has zero to do with who they will claim did it

On balance Ukraine had more to gain though I think both sides suffer from it


Just because Ukraine might have more to gain doesn't mean they did it.
29 posted on 06/07/2023 6:15:22 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Actually, since the dam was already mined by the Russian military, it is also possible that the actual demolition was an accident or incompetence.


30 posted on 06/07/2023 9:57:49 AM PDT by devere
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To: devere
--- "...it is also possible that the actual demolition was an accident or incompetence."

It is my tendency to attribute accidents and / or incompetence to much, often followed with "not my fault."

Why? Because it's someone else's fault, of course.

In the seemingly unrelated threads about San Francisco's current travails, a Democrat supported by Democrats locally in a Democrat-run state with a Democrat super-majority says a Democrat -- Biden -- has "not done enough" regarding a crisis.

Question: Is such a buck-passing an accident -- Democrat blames Democrat, oops -- or incompetence -- Democrat blames Democrat, oops?

"...accidents and / or incompetence?" It's what's being served up in heaping platefuls these days. In Europe and the Middle East. In our United States. In Asia and beyond. "This time it will work" even though it failed the twenty previous times. But if it fails again, it's not my fault....

31 posted on 06/07/2023 10:28:05 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: wardaddy

That is significant turnaround from “the Russians did it”.


32 posted on 06/08/2023 6:26:16 AM PDT by NorseViking
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