Posted on 06/06/2023 3:53:22 PM PDT by wardaddy
Kyiv has accused Russian forces of blowing up a large dam in southern Ukraine, while the Moscow-installed official in the city of Nova Kakhovka in the Russian-controlled portion of the Kherson region blamed the structure’s destruction on Ukrainian shelling.
(Excerpt) Read more at aljazeera.com ...
And also by Russia as well
It’s a war. Someone knows who blew it up, but it was an obvious target. Create a flood or marsh and you cut off access - either supply lines, or flanking maneuvers, etc. It benefited one side or the other I just don’t know whom. I would suspect it benefited Russia from what limited information I have heard, but even if it did that still doesn’t rule out a false flag operation, or, possibly, some third party taking a Ukrainian option off the table and forcing them into a different direction.
We know who did it but that has zero to do with who they will claim did it
On balance Ukraine had more to gain though I think both sides suffer from it
But the Ukraine suffering involves a couple of things they are not as keen supporting anyhow
We’ll never know till it’s Verona time and I’ll be dead
Plus even if disclosed SBU for sure did it the media will ignore that
They ignore everything now
Catch Biden with proverbial dead boy and it would be media blackout
Do not doubt me
That’s our world now and yet many here still rely on it
It harms Russia too for troop movements and Crimea and the nuke plant
I do not understand the phrase in this context. Worked in Verona years ago. Lovely, and a fascinating horse culture. Had lamb with a chocolate and garlic sauce I have never been able to recreate.
Possibly... I’ll take your word for it. I just heard the news this AM and the “experts” on TV who spoke for 40 seconds didn’t seem to know anything. I haven’t had a moment today to review any further but from what I did hear, it may stop Ukraine from a flank move from that direction, and it may stop Russian supply lines and isolate Crimea. That’s the first I heard about the nuclear site but sounds ominous if they need that fresh water for cooling the reactor!
I think he was referring to the Verona files that were released some 40 years after the fact. These files came from the fallen Soviet Union, and confirmed that a lot of what Joe McCarthy said was true - i.e., the State Department was riddled with commies. And still are (as is Hollywood, or Educational institutions, etc).
Man I could have your username
Lol
Used to log 250k a year world over
Mostly Carib basin and Latin America and Europe and west Africa
Some orient
Now it’s gulf beach or out west with spawns
Yes, verona is Russian for raven. And used in many place names, etc. There are certainly plenty of them there.
Vorona, not verona. Typo.
No worries about the nuke plant just yet: “IAEA chief Rafael Grossi said the plant should have enough water to cool its reactors for “some months” from a pond located above the reservoir of the dam. “There are a number of alternative sources of water. A main one is the large cooling pond next to the site that by design is kept above the height of the reservoir,” he said in a statement.”
Video and photos show extensive damage along the whole installation, including the bypass channel for the hydro powerplant. This was not the work of a single munition. That indicates a comprehensive, planned demolition.
We did it...
It does nothing to isolate Crimea, in the military sense.
The Crimean canal feeding from the reservoir is for irrigation water. Crimea has been just fine (aside from its agriculture) from 2014-2022. Crimea has other water sources sufficient for its non-ag usage. It should have no effect on the military logistics situation there.
Yep I heard I think mersheimer say that today or someone quote him
“Europe’s largest nuclear facility uses water from the dam to cool six reactors as well as spent fuel and emergency diesel generators.”
Sooner or later man is going to lose control. One way or another.
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