Posted on 06/03/2023 5:48:00 PM PDT by elpadre
SINGAPORE — China put European patience to the test on Saturday, with a seasoned Chinese diplomat attributing Russia’s war on Ukraine to a failed security architecture in Europe.
It fell to Dutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren to challenge that very Chinese interpretation.
“I was actually a little bit surprised to hear it,” Ollongren told POLITICO in an interview moments after she made an impromptu rebuttal of ex-ambassador Cui Tiankai on a panel at the Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore. “It’s very, very false.”
Cui, a former envoy to the U.S. and unofficially an adviser to the Chinese delegation at this top Asian security forum, told the event on Saturday that Europe had showed little success in ensuring the Continent’s security, and suggested that the other nations at the forum should take a lesson from China and Asia instead.
“We used to look to Europe, for their experience in regional integration. But nowadays, maybe people in Europe instead could look to us,” Cui told the gathering. “We don’t impose our ways on you, but maybe you can learn something useful from our experience, from our success,” he said.
“And our region also should learn something very important — from your lack of success. I don’t want to use the word ‘failure,’ [so] a lack of success,” said Cui, who sat next to Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov on the panel.
“We will continue with our Asian ways of managing our security situation and managing all the issues,” Cui said. “We don’t need an Asian NATO. We’ll don’t want to see expansion of NATO’s role in our region.”
While the Ukrainian minister steered clear of criticizing Beijing — saying only that Ukraine needed to win the war, not negotiate — Ollongren hit back at Cui’s assertion.
“There was a suggestion by the ambassador that Europe has not succeeded in managing its security very well, because of the war in Ukraine. Of course, I understand there’s a war in Ukraine — but I think it’s not the result of mismanaging our security situation in Europe. It’s the result of not respecting the way we want to manage security in Europe,” the Dutch minister said.
“I think also, there is no lack of respect for China or lack of respect to the culture of China in Europe; we have very high respect for that,” she said.
Ollongren, whose country has taken an increasingly critical stance on China over ties with Russia and tech advancement in military fields, added after the panel that what Cui had presented was a “false perception of the situation.”
“You cannot blame Europe or European countries for Russia’s illegally invading Ukraine,” she said.
Ollongren added that since Cui is no longer an ambassador, she would wait for Chinese Defense Minister Li Shangfu to spell out the official position in his keynote address on Sunday.
The Communist Perspective usually is not accurate about anything in reality except hate and evil, and using those two things to advance a political agenda and acquire power.
Does that apply to the Biden regime as well?
hmmmmm .... that's a head scratcher for me .... I think.
I believe Cui Tiankai has a point. Was the constant enlarging NATO eastward improving peace in Europe?? Or was it a building threat to others???
In the world of, “what if’s.” What if NATO had not taken in Poland and the others? Could the new countries formed after the USSR break-up, including Russia, been developed into nations friendly to NATO and the US, rather than adversarial???
I believe under the right leadership it could have happened. I also believe a Trump could have made it happen. Based on the negotiations when Germany was re-unified, I believe that was a goal.
A Dutch lesbian Royal…former mayor of Amsterdam. Perfect as a defense minister to lecture a serious Chinese man.
Laughable
No the Chinese man is correct. Europe has not managed its security and I’d in the throes of a foreign Invasion. As are we.
Communists also don’t seem to like getting along with other communists who think their brand of communism is better. They all think theirs is best so often they don’t like each other.
“Communists also don’t seem to like getting along with other communists who think their brand of communism is better. They all think theirs is best so often they don’t like each other.”
>>>>>>>
So true!
That’s why socialist Hitler battled his Socialist commie brother Stalin.
“We will continue with our Asian ways of managing our security situation...”
“Sometimes I sit and wonder, in my artless Japanese way, why it is that I am so much more attractive than anybody else in the whole world.” - Gilbert and Sullivan
“war in Ukraine...the result of not respecting the way we want to manage security in Europe,” the Dutch minister said.
Dissed, eh?
Communist China has had its fingers deep in the destabilization of Europe, and this country for a very long time. If there is indeed a failed security architecture in Europe, they been involved in it. Here too.
For 5 million dollars, Biden will change his perspective.
the proxy war in Spain
Hitler- mussolini bombed the
internationales
to keep the commies out
putin now too
in the ukraine
also
Germany in ww1
the coup d gras
was losing to the commies on the home front
collapse - like what it already did to Russia
they were fighting on the streets ( Berlin) then too
which explains what ( revenge ) ww2 was all about
ww3 now again - communism via nato / ukraine attacking Russia too
Translation:>> we Chinese/Asians, do not want to be a subservient client state of the USA via NATO, and you Europeans are idiots for subjugating yourselves to it and allowing the Americans to exploit you.
Exactly. Nazis were socialists (”national socialists”) just like the russians were socialists.
And fascists are socialists too. They keep a veneer of private businesses around to use as a whipping boy when things go wrong and they need to deflect societal hatred onto useful Goldstein whipping boys.
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