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Might as well send the Ukrainians the A-10 Warthogs that the USAF are retiring too!
1 posted on 05/19/2023 8:00:51 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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And I suppose the U.S. will also provide “advisors,” “private contractors,” or “volunteers” to fly these planes?


2 posted on 05/19/2023 8:02:41 AM PDT by Angelino97
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The one solution to avoiding WWIII:

1. Ukraine loses
2. Ukraine is divided 

5 posted on 05/19/2023 8:16:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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Kiev go Boomie?


7 posted on 05/19/2023 8:21:32 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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No one sums up how dirty our foreign policy has been in Ukraine and explains how we provoked and wanted this proxy war with Russia better than Col. Douglas Macgregor. An interview with Macgregor:

US Military Colonel Says Government Lied About Ukraine War - Colonel Douglas Macgregor

10 posted on 05/19/2023 8:29:12 AM PDT by Kazan
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Bakhmut Endgame | Final Days Of The Battle | Bakhmut Front Update 19/05/23
11 posted on 05/19/2023 8:29:27 AM PDT by Kazan
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“Might as well send the Ukrainians the A-10 Warthogs that the USAF are retiring too!”

Agreed! Let Ukraine get some more use out of them!


19 posted on 05/19/2023 8:56:01 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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what a waste.


25 posted on 05/19/2023 9:29:45 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/patriot-station-batteries-destroyed-hypersonic

Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev

Following a major strike on the Ukrainian capital Kiev in May 16, which involved use of multiple missile classes including deployment of Kinzhal ballistic missiles against Ukraine’s Patriot air defence systems, new information regarding the strike has continued to emerge. With Western sources having confirmed that a Patriot system was taken out of action, the Russian Defence Ministry on May 18 reported: "According to verified information, as a result of a strike by the Kinzhal hypersonic missile system in the city of Kiev a multifunctional radar station, as well as five launchers of the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by the United States were hit and completely destroyed on May 16, 2023.” It was previously only confirmed that the radar station, which provides command and control for each Patriot unit, was destroyed. Ukraine received two units of Patriots from mid April, with the first delivered less than a month before the recent strike. The United States repeatedly proved reluctant to provide the assets or to allow its European allies to do so, not only because this would deplete the relatively limited arsenals available to the U.S. Military and its allies, but also because of their extreme cost and the significant reputational damage which their destruction in combat could cause. The system’s failure was widely predicted in light of its highly modest combat record against much simpler missiles than those in Russia’s arsenal.

Three primary factors thought to have influenced Washington to eventually approve transfers of Patriots to Ukraine included sustained pressure from European allies, the danger of Ukrainian population centres becoming unliveable due to Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, and the very serious depletion of Ukraine’s existing air defence network built around Soviet S-300 and BuK systems which the country inherited in considerable quantities in 1991. Patriots are by far the most costly military assets Ukraine has in service, and their delivered has absorbed a high portion of the funds allocated to aiding the Ukrainian war effort - an investment which it was long argued by multiple analysts would be far from cost effectively. The Patriots were assigned to protect the capital following major Russian strikes on critical infrastructure, with their much lower mobility and more limited arcs of fire than even Soviet era variants of the S-300 system limiting their suitability for use near the frontlines in Eastern Ukraine. The Patriot system targeted reportedly fired 32 interceptors at the Kinzhal ballistic missiles that targeted it, all of which failed, with this salvo alone having cost approximately $96 million.

32 posted on 05/19/2023 10:04:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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The sooner countries send F-16’s to Ukraine, the sooner they will be shot down by the Russians.

NATO is being destroyed by its own foolishness in depleting its weapons to assist Ukraine in a war Ukraine cannot win.

NATO was designed and chartered as a DEFENSIVE alliance against the Soviet Union which no longer exists.

NATO has long ago lost its purpose and should have been dismantled decades ago.

NATO has been steadily growing in size to promote its OFFENSIVE use of weapons against Russia at the insistence of warmongers in Washington DC.

Russia has not attacked any NATO country which is a major point overlooked by all the Western warmongers.


37 posted on 05/19/2023 10:32:47 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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The Biden Administration has no interest in LIBERATING Ukraine.

If it did, it would destroy the murderous regime running that country so people could live in a multi-cultural, peaceful country.

Zelensky is a ruthless dictator who has outlawed opposition voices and even destroyed churches. Ukraine is no democracy to be rescued.

The murderers in charge in Ukraine were shelling and killing thousands of ethnic Russians in the Donbas for eight years. The people there wanted autonomy from Kiev but got slaughtered for daring to gain that autonomy.


41 posted on 05/19/2023 10:52:03 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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Being the gracious winner that I am, I want to lead my assistance to the site neocons in pronouncing the new, old name of Bakhmat now that is has been liberated and is no official again part of the Russian Federation:

How to pronounce Artyomovsk

49 posted on 05/20/2023 5:36:29 PM PDT by Kazan
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