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North Carolina Governor Vetoes Bill to End Jim Crow Era Pistol Purchase Permits
AmmoLand ^ | March 27, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/30/2023 5:07:59 AM PDT by marktwain

On March 24, 2023, Governor Roy Cooper (D) of North Carolina vetoed SB 41, which would remove the Jim Crow era requirement to obtain permission from the Sheriff to purchase or transfer a pistol in the state. Federal background checks would still be required. Governor Cooper vetoed a similar measure in 2021.

Critics of the law have claimed it was used as a means of discrimination to keep black people disarmed.

The bill, SB 41, passed with veto-proof majorities in the House and in the Senate.

The Senate has 50 members. 30 of them are Republicans.

In the House,  there are 120 members. 71 of them are Republicans.

In North Carolina, 3/5 of each chamber is necessary to override a governor’s veto. That is 30 votes in the Senate and 72 votes in the House. Therefore one Democratic vote is needed in the House to override the Governor Roy Cooper’s desire to keep the Jim Crow era law in place. Commercial sales of firearms would still be required to be conducted through federally licensed dealers using the FBI National Instant background Check System (NICS).

The passage of the bill would remove the ability of Sheriffs to delay or deny the sale of pistols. It would also remove some restrictions on the carry of concealed handguns in churches and create a “firearms safe storage” educational initiative.

Here is an overview of the law from the North Carolina legislature:

OVERVIEW: Senate Bill 41 would:

•Authorize an individual who has a valid concealed handgun permit, or who is exempt from obtaining that permit, to carry a handgun in a place of religious worship that is also educational property if:


(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; nc; pistolpermit; sales
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Late breaking update: NC Governor's veto is overridden. SB 41 is passed into law.
1 posted on 03/30/2023 5:07:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Good news there. Glad to see it.


2 posted on 03/30/2023 5:12:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: ScottinVA

Bonus...great campaign ad fodder, “Governor Cooper supports Jim Crowe laws, vetoing their removal twice!”


3 posted on 03/30/2023 5:17:13 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: marktwain

BTTT


4 posted on 03/30/2023 5:21:02 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: marktwain

What a PITA that thing was


5 posted on 03/30/2023 5:21:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: marktwain

I recently renewed my CCW. Our AA sheriff hasn’t made the process any easier. It took five weeks for my new permit to be mailed.


6 posted on 03/30/2023 5:22:33 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: marktwain

While I am glad the veto was overridden, I seriously doubt the old law prevented many if any transfers and/or purchases.
Laws are written to punish people for their transgressions against the state, not to prevent crime.
Don’t believe me? Chicago, Saint Louis, Memphis, Philadelphia and Baltimore come to mind.


7 posted on 03/30/2023 5:32:36 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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“Late breaking update: NC Governor’s veto is overridden. SB 41 is passed into law.”

Good to hear, and it sounds like Kristi Noem’s plane didn’t make it there fast enough.


8 posted on 03/30/2023 5:36:29 AM PDT by BobL
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To: ScottinVA

Sheriffs will be pissed, loss of income stream. It cost me I believe $75 to get three purchase permits letters. Sheriffs already had me in their system for a previous conceal carry permit. So it took a day to get the permits. $25 each for a computer generated letter that took five minutes to produce.


9 posted on 03/30/2023 5:44:49 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: marktwain
From another source:

The House has 120 members, but three House Democrats who have been willing to vote with Republicans on party-line bills in the past weren’t present Wednesday morning. Absences from Reps. Cecil Brockman of Guilford County, Tricia Cotham of Mecklenburg County and Michael Wray of Halifax County meant that Republicans only needed 71 votes to override the veto, not 72.

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article273692830.html#storylink=cpy

10 posted on 03/30/2023 5:44:51 AM PDT by 11th_VA (XX < > XY)
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To: marktwain

Democratic voters get what they asked for with Cooper.


11 posted on 03/30/2023 5:55:33 AM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: marktwain

Considering what’s going on in Washington State, the override is great news. That governor dreams of being as powerful as the Western Governor’s Association members that’s pure commie driven.


12 posted on 03/30/2023 6:09:23 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: marktwain

Darn. And I was on first-name basis with the shire reeve deputies, with all the transactions I’ve done over there. Guess I could put them on the Christmas mailing list.

(Good news though. Thanks!)


13 posted on 03/30/2023 6:11:54 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: ComputerGuy

I’m In NC. Try 5 months for me. They sent a letter saying I was good to carry after the expiration (which it did), but I couldn’t breeze in and buy a weapon using just my CCW. No worries though...the wife told me no more guns anyway.


14 posted on 03/30/2023 6:16:01 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Tupelo

Most of the reason for allowing sheriffs to control permits was to prevent Black folks from getting them.

Gun control is inherently racist.


15 posted on 03/30/2023 6:36:45 AM PDT by Aeneas2112 (YOU are your own first responder)
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To: moovova

Wake County here. The state’s leading parasite center.


16 posted on 03/30/2023 6:53:13 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: ComputerGuy

Got a democrat sister nearby. My condolences...


17 posted on 03/30/2023 7:11:49 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: marktwain

Yep. As usual Cooper vetoed any legislation that is good.....but the Republican legislature stuffed this one down his throat. Veto Overridden.

Suck it Cooper.


18 posted on 03/30/2023 7:14:54 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: ComputerGuy

Funny you say that because I mailed the renewal of my CCW off about 5 weeks ago and am still waiting to receive the new one.


19 posted on 03/30/2023 7:15:46 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

What county?


20 posted on 03/30/2023 7:18:08 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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