Posted on 03/15/2023 12:31:40 PM PDT by conservative98
Trump, with all his flaws, is proven swamp free.
DeSantis, not clear. And DeSantis is holding his opinions about certain things close to his chest (a little politician like). I like what he says, but many swamp creatures have said things then done different. Its a known verses unknown for me, and in those toss ups, I tend to go with the known.
These “Trump dissed DeSantis/DeSantis dissed Trump’ threads are rabbit holes.
I have faith we will rally behind either man when the time comes.
Besides being some political posturing, why should that matter?
DeSantis is not an state employee he is a state official. The statute does make a distinction. If you read further on 110.233 (5) reads, “No state employee or official shall use any promise of reward or threat of loss to encourage or coerce any employee to support or contribute to any political issue, candidate, or party.” This shows that the previous subsection (4)(a) is not applicable to state officials else they would be included in that subsection.
I hate the thought of losing DeSantis and kind of hope he reserves running for president till 2028.
Trump has made it clear he’s going to rule or ruin. If he can’t be the nominee, he’ll pull the while party down.
I believe he did:
From 2021: Gov. Ron DeSantis says he won’t run for president because he’s busy ‘trying to make sure people are not supporting critical race theory’
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-gov-ron-desantis-says-031935029.html
“But it is not the left stirring up trouble., when Trump himself is making these critical statements about DeSantis.”
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Yes, listening to Trump is so tedious and annoying that I’ve disengaged from him.
I’ll be watching MARCH MADNESS the rest of the month while Trump continues to make a fool of himself.
Those of you who continue to be obsequious to Trump will be heartbroken.
Is that a correct read?
I have to go back and look at that law again.
DeSantis' surrogates have been attacking Trump.
It all began back in the fall when Colorado Senate candidate and Bush-RINO, Joe O'Dea went on CNN and trashed Trump. Two days later DeSantis endorsed O'Dea.
And since then, Paul Ryan, Karl Rove and Jeb have been praising DeSantis and trashing Trump.
DeSantis' passive aggressiveness has alienated people.
Because he’s not a nut case. Trump has lost the plot.
The Bush,McCain, Romney party ?
Pulled down?
That’d be great!
That’s like draining the swamp from the R side..
It doesn’t get any simpler than that.
Trump’s Right again
He needs to convince the Florida legislature to allow him to run for president and state governor first. He hasn’t done that to.
It was designed so that if someone were to run for the presidency, he’d have to resign from the governorship, and DeSantis’s people seem to read it that way. But “nominee” is not a public office; DeSantis won’t have to resign until he wins and accepts the nomination.
“Tgat is a passive aggressive slimycampaign”
You can call it what you want, but here are a few things I haven’t seen DeSantis do:
* He hasn’t announced his candidacy
* He hasn’t filed any of the required paperwork to even start an exploratory committee
* He hasn’t solicited donations for his campaign
* He hasn’t run any campaign ads
* He hasn’t held any campaign rallies
* He hasn’t made a single public appearance where he’s ever said “I’m Ron DeSantis and I’d like your vote for President in 2024”
So, by the normal standards that apply to all politicians in this country, he’s not actually running a campaign for office. He certainly seems to be preparing to, and laying the groundwork to do so, but he is not in fact a candidate for anything at this point.
Perhaps you read the law differently but it does not have to be a public office. Once he declares or officially files for the Primary, he has to resign if the law is not changed by that time.
There are FAR too many idiots on FR these days. The idiots do not read anything, know nothing, and when someone says there is a law they don’t know how to go look for themselves. It is why I just don’t post here much at all anymore. Idiocracy is a documentary anymore.
Here the law, and IT DOES NOT SAY DENSANTIS MUST RESIGN RIGHT NOW! It says he must tell the people he will resign as governor if elected as President. Well, no shit, Sherlock. Of course he would have to.
The 2022 Florida Statutes (including 2022 Special Session A and 2023 Special Session B)
Title IX
ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS
Chapter 99
CANDIDATES
View Entire Chapter
99.012 Restrictions on individuals qualifying for public office.—
(1) As used in this section:
(a) “Officer” means a person, whether elected or appointed, who has the authority to exercise the sovereign power of the state pertaining to an office recognized under the State Constitution or laws of the state. With respect to a municipality, the term “officer” means a person, whether elected or appointed, who has the authority to exercise municipal power as provided by the State Constitution, state laws, or municipal charter.
(b) “Subordinate officer” means a person who has been delegated the authority to exercise the sovereign power of the state by an officer. With respect to a municipality, subordinate officer means a person who has been delegated the authority to exercise municipal power by an officer.
(2) No person may qualify as a candidate for more than one public office, whether federal, state, district, county, or municipal, if the terms or any part thereof run concurrently with each other.
(3)(a) No officer may qualify as a candidate for another state, district, county, or municipal public office if the terms or any part thereof run concurrently with each other without resigning from the office he or she presently holds.
(b) The resignation is irrevocable.
(c) The written resignation must be submitted at least 10 days prior to the first day of qualifying for the office he or she intends to seek.
(d) The resignation must be effective no later than the earlier of the following dates:
1. The date the officer would take office, if elected; or
2. The date the officer’s successor is required to take office.
(e)1. An elected district, county, or municipal officer must submit his or her resignation to the officer before whom he or she qualified for the office he or she holds, with a copy to the Governor and the Department of State.
2. An appointed district, county, or municipal officer must submit his or her resignation to the officer or authority which appointed him or her to the office he or she holds, with a copy to the Governor and the Department of State.
3. All other officers must submit their resignations to the Governor with a copy to the Department of State.
(f) The office is deemed vacant upon the effective date of the resignation submitted by the official in his or her letter of resignation.
(g) Any officer who submits his or her resignation, effective immediately or effective on a date prior to the date of his or her qualifying for office, may then qualify for office as a nonofficeholder, and the provisions of this subsection do not apply.
(4)(a) Any officer who qualifies for federal public office must resign from the office he or she presently holds if the terms, or any part thereof, run concurrently with each other.
(b) The resignation is irrevocable.
(c) The resignation must be submitted at least 10 days before the first day of qualifying for the office he or she intends to seek.
(d) The written resignation must be effective no later than the earlier of the following dates:
1. The date the officer would take office, if elected; or
2. The date the officer’s successor is required to take office.
(e)1. An elected district, county, or municipal officer shall submit his or her resignation to the officer before whom he or she qualified for the office he or she holds, with a copy to the Governor and the Department of State.
2. An appointed district, county, or municipal officer shall submit his or her resignation to the officer or authority which appointed him or her to the office he or she holds, with a copy to the Governor and the Department of State.
3. All other officers shall submit their resignations to the Governor with a copy to the Department of State.
(f)1. The failure of an officer who qualifies for federal public office to submit a resignation pursuant to this subsection constitutes an automatic irrevocable resignation, effective immediately, from the office he or she presently holds.
2. The Department of State shall send a notice of the automatic resignation to the Governor, and in the case of a district, county, or municipal officer, a copy to:
a. The officer before whom he or she qualified if the officer held an elective office; or
b. The officer or authority who appointed him or her if the officer held an appointive office.
(g) The office is deemed vacant upon the effective date of the resignation submitted by the official in his or her letter of resignation.
(5) A person who is a subordinate officer, deputy sheriff, or police officer must resign effective upon qualifying pursuant to this chapter if the person is seeking to qualify for a public office that is currently held by an officer who has authority to appoint, employ, promote, or otherwise supervise that person and who has qualified as a candidate for reelection to that office.
(6) If an order of a court that has become final determines that a person did not comply with this section, the person shall not be qualified as a candidate for election and his or her name may not appear on the ballot.
(7) This section does not apply to:
(a) Political party offices.
(b) Persons serving without salary as members of an appointive board or authority.
(8) Subsections (3) and (4) do not apply to persons holding any federal office. Subsection (4) does not apply to an elected officer if the term of the office that he or she presently holds is scheduled to expire and be filled by election in the same primary and general election period as the federal office he or she is seeking.
>> It all began back in the fall when Colorado Senate candidate and Bush-RINO, Joe O’Dea went on CNN and trashed Trump. Two days later DeSantis endorsed O’Dea. <<
What you mean is that it began when Trump attacked the Republican nominee, that nominee responded in kind, and DeSantis endorsed the Republican. Trump chumps tried to claim that DeSantis ONLY endorsed O’Dea to make it look like he endorsed O’Dea only because he attacked Trump, but that was a stupid lie: DeSantis endorsed every Republican nominee to the right of O’Dea.
think it would be wise for him to honor his earlier statements that he would not contest Trump and just serve out his governor term until 2028. The fact that he is teasing a campaign lowers him in my eyes.
I agree, as a resident of Florida.
I used to really approve of RD but now I’m not liking his actions at all. I think many Floridians think the same way.
Sure, I suppose, if he wants to run, and if he doesn’t want to resign the governorship first. We’ll see.
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