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Deaths That Occur Years After COVID-19 May Be Attributed to Disease: CDC
epoch times ^ | 9 March A.D. 2023 | Zachery Steiber

Posted on 03/09/2023 6:33:39 AM PST by lightman

So-called long COVID can be listed as a cause of death even if a deceased person had not tested positive for COVID-19 for months or even years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in a new update.

“When completing the death certificate, certifiers should carefully review and consider the decedent’s medical history and records, laboratory test results, and autopsy report, if one is available. For decedents who had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection and were diagnosed with a post-COVID-19 condition, the certifier may consider the possibility that the death was due to long-term complications of COVID-19, even if the original infection occurred months or years before death,” the CDC said in updated guidance for certifying deaths due to COVID-19.

“Long COVID,” or post-acute sequelae of COVID-19, refers to long-term problems believed to stem from COVID-19.

Emerging evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, “can have lasting effects on nearly every organ and organ system of the body weeks, months, and potentially years after infection,” the CDC says in its update.

The agency pointed to several papers. One, published in its quasi-journal, found that some people reported problems two months after testing positive for COVID-19. Two others were round-ups of existing literature on “long COVID.” The CDC also referenced a U.S. National Institutes of Health webpage on the subject.

In one of four hypothetical scenarios presented by the agency, a healthy 48-year-old suffered respiratory problems, fatigue, and brain fog after COVID-19. The man gradually improved, but some symptoms persisted, and imaging revealed heart inflammation.

Several months later, the man died in the hospital after heart failure.

The certificate listed heart failure; cardiomyopathy, a heart muscle disease; myocarditis, the heart inflammation; and post-acute sequelae of COVID-19. The chain of events started with the latter.

Dr. Thomas Gilson, the chief medical examiner in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, told The Epoch Times that the scenario was reasonable.

“That’s kind of the crux of the matter—when I’m certifying a death is, can I really trace things back logically to the COVID infection and then the consequences of the infection,” Gilson said.

In some cases in the real world, examiners would not list the post-acute sequelae, he said.

“The trouble with this is how accurate are the death certifications and COVID. This is a longer standing problem than COVID that sometimes, we don’t always … see people certifying deaths going all the way back to the real initial cause,” Gilson said. “The longer I think there is between an inciting event and a person passing away, the more likely it is that sometimes those things don’t make it onto the death certificate.”

Twenty to thirty percent of death certificates have “issues with completeness,” according to the CDC. In 2018, more than a third of death certificates had an “unsuitable” or “ill-defined” underlying cause of death, CDC researchers have said.

Deaths Overcounted?

The CDC itself has acknowledged it overcounts COVID-19 hospitalizations, including hospitalizations where a patient tests positive for COVID-19 but is hospitalized for unrelated reasons.

On deaths, the CDC has claimed its numbers are accurate.

The death count only includes deaths “in which COVID-19 played a meaningful role,” the CDC said in a recent statement.

Some U.S. deaths labeled as from COVID-19, though, are due to unrelated causes such as car accidents and gunshots. The CDC says that a death can be from COVID-19 even if a person didn’t test positive, provided “circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” And researchers, including a Danish group, have found that COVID-19 deaths include deaths in which the deceased coincidentally had COVID-19.

“Incidental conditions or findings are not supposed to be reported on death certificates,” a CDC spokesperson previously told The Epoch Times.

On the other hand, some deaths caused by COVID-19 may have been attributed to other causes because of a lack of a COVID-19 test or diagnosis.

The CDC has multiple times during the pandemic removed deaths initially attributed to COVID-19, attributing the actions to data issues.

Deaths Attributed to ‘Long COVID’

The CDC has already attributed thousands of deaths to so-called long COVID, but the new guidance may lead to an increase in of post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 being listed on the death certificate.

“There may be cases where somebody has (or believes they have) long COVID. They go on for years and suddenly they die of something. And then the doctor may decide to call this a ‘COVID death.’ That could raise some issues, certainly,” Daniel Halperin, an epidemiologist at the University of North Carolina’s Gillings School of Global Public Health, told The Epoch Times.

“Now, when a clinician genuinely feels the person who’s got these ongoing series of symptoms started with a COVID illness, and that person eventually does die, well yes it could make sense to call that a death from COVID. But, statistically speaking, how many cases are there like that?” he added.

Halperin, who wrote in January that “misclassified hospitalizations obviously suggest there have also been miscategorized deaths,” said it’ll be interesting to see whether the updated guidance will cause the official death count to go up significantly.

The updated guidance says that certifiers should only include post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 on a certificate if it caused or contributed to a death.

Gilson, the Ohio medical examiner, said that for deaths from a car accident or another unrelated cause, the sequelae should not be listed.

“Long COVID doesn’t belong on that death certificate,” he said. “It doesn’t contribute to the person dying; they died from their injuries in the car accident. I would leave it off. It may underestimate how well we track long COVID as a problem in the community but it wouldn’t lead to an overcounting of the death unless the death certificate was filled out improperly.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid1984; fearporn; longcovid
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FEARPORN!

Anything to satisfy the maskerbators and bondage (lockdown) pervs.

1 posted on 03/09/2023 6:33:39 AM PST by lightman
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To: lightman

Years? What? Two?


2 posted on 03/09/2023 6:35:25 AM PST by SkyDancer (Hold on tight to your dream)
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To: lightman

the CDC protects Agent Orange (its first holy grail)
AND its VAX(es) which have murdered more than >20x what
the nothing-burger virus, which THEY MADE, made ill.

ACOUNTABILITY for the LYING CDC = 0.0


3 posted on 03/09/2023 6:37:14 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: lightman

As with so many “medical professionals” and self-proclaimed “medical experts”, the CDC has lost all credibility to provide medical advice. You follow their advice at your own (significant) peril.


4 posted on 03/09/2023 6:39:32 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: lightman

Whitewash.


5 posted on 03/09/2023 6:39:40 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: lightman

NO CREDIBILITY....none, nada.
CDC, WHO NIH, and a bunch of other 3-letter crapolas should just shutter the windows, lock the doors and leave the world alone.
Nobody believes a fricken’ word they put out anymore. They blew it all away in the name of politics, and certainly NOT science.
It all started with Scarf and Fauxi, then went totally downhill from there.


6 posted on 03/09/2023 6:39:48 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: lightman

The only pandemic in history where you have to take a test to know if you are sick and you can live for years before dying from it. /s

Good news is that no one will ever die from the flu again.


7 posted on 03/09/2023 6:40:41 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: lightman

COVID absolutely will have long term effects
The shutdowns will also have long term effects, will they be listed as a cause of death?


8 posted on 03/09/2023 6:41:21 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: lightman

Rackin’ up a larger body count for the Red Chinese and the far left Dung Beetle Party.


9 posted on 03/09/2023 6:45:23 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("I may be a white boy but I'm not stupid". - FJB at Black "History" event. Tell 'em Jo Jo!)
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Deaths That Occur Years After COVID-19 Vaccine May Be Attributed to DiseaseVACCINE: CDC

There, I fixed the title
10 posted on 03/09/2023 6:46:29 AM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: lightman

Any deferred deaths are more like attributable to the “cure.”


11 posted on 03/09/2023 6:48:53 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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To: lightman

Or more likely the “vaccine”.


12 posted on 03/09/2023 7:00:06 AM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: lightman
Need to continue pushing fear to get COVID-19 vaccines into people.

Never mind that people with the vaccine are only expected to get a less serious infection, at best. The vaccine can't come close to covering everything needed to fully make anyone's body not get it. It's just a flawed, tiny portion of the whole virus—a virus that keeps mutating away from anything a vaccine has/had.

And that's being kind to the vaccine.

It was far better to get COVID-19 and make it through. Unfortunately, all official sources in the US said there was nothing you could do except the vaccine, a mask, and stay at home. Yes, even for healthy people, we were often mandated to stay at home—except you could always go to Walmart.

Now, how is that sane, when saying you can't go anywhere? Did Walmart have special magic dust that Mom and Pop establishments didn't? Why, yes it did!

It still hasn't been described just what special sauce Walmart had, but Amazon profited greatly, too.

I still can't get over the amazing toilet paper hoarding that went on. Toilet paper stops COVID-19, apparently!

And we found out new a new legal concept—“nonessential businesses.” It still isn't in our laws, though. Strange, that…

13 posted on 03/09/2023 7:01:58 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: lightman

The reason they needed us all vaccinated was so it would be much easier to blame the virus itself. With so many unvaccinated, there will now be a comparison between vaxxed and unvaxxed. They wouldn’t need this propaganda operation if they managed to convince us all to vaccinate.


14 posted on 03/09/2023 7:07:50 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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To: lightman

Can’t justify what was done unless they can find a way to attribute numbers to it. Apparently through any means necessary.


15 posted on 03/09/2023 7:16:52 AM PST by Marko413
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To: lightman

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16 posted on 03/09/2023 7:19:22 AM PST by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: lightman

Same standard for vaccine injury, deaths. Starting to see peri and myocarditis, bizarre cancers in people in their 30s around me. I work in almost fully vaxxed healthcare.


17 posted on 03/09/2023 7:58:24 AM PST by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: eyeamok

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

We have a winner!


18 posted on 03/09/2023 8:45:09 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: momincombatboots

Gassy, minimojo, DigDug hardest hit....


19 posted on 03/09/2023 8:47:02 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: lightman; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious Disease ping - The CDC revised its description of covid-19 related deaths

(from the article):" So-called long COVID can be listed as a cause of death even if a deceased person had not tested positive for COVID-19 for months or even years,
the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said in a new update."

“When completing the death certificate, certifiers should carefully review and consider the decedent’s medical history and records,
laboratory test results, and autopsy report, if one is available.
For decedents who had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection and were diagnosed with a post-COVID-19 condition,
the certifier may consider the possibility that the death was due to long-term complications of COVID-19, even if the original infection occurred months or years before death,”
the CDC said in updated guidance for certifying deaths due to COVID-19."

“Long COVID,” or post-acute sequelae of COVID-19, refers to long-term problems believed to stem from COVID-19."

"Emerging evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, “can have lasting effects on nearly every organ and organ system of the body weeks,
months, and potentially years after infection,” the CDC says in its update. "

(My Comment): Please note that the CDC's update refers to the Covid virus,
and does not refer to the covid-19 "vaccine" manufactured by Big Pharma.
This begs the question - which is/was more dangerous and fatal (?), the covid-19 disease, or, the manufactured "vaccine" ?

20 posted on 03/09/2023 9:46:06 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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