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WHEN IT COMES TO UKRAINE AND RUSSIA, THE UNITED STATES INTEL COMMUNITY IS CONFUSING PYRITE WITH GENUINE GOLD
Sonar21 ^ | 26 Feb 23 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/27/2023 4:39:17 PM PST by delta7

WHEN IT COMES TO UKRAINE AND RUSSIA, THE UNITED STATES INTEL COMMUNITY IS CONFUSING PYRITE WITH GENUINE GOLD 26 February 2023 by Larry Johnson 131 Comments

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I am following up on my previous posts about the failure of the U.S. intelligence community, the CIA in particular, in providing an accurate, objective assessment of the war in Ukraine and what is happening in Russia. I no longer hold clearances and have not had access to the classified intelligence assessments. However, I have heard that the finished intelligence being supplied to U.S. policymakers continues to declare that that Russia is on the ropes and their economy is crumbling. Also, analysts insist that the Ukrainians are beating the Russians.

How can this be? The explanation is simple and shocking — the analysts are ignoring valid open source reporting and they are relying on liaison reports, i.e. intelligence provided by “friendly foreign” intelligence agencies without seeking corroboration. Specifically, it appears the United States intel analysts are accepting information from Ukraine and the United Kingdom as “pure gold” without realizing that it is fool’s gold.

Let us consider some relevant open source reporting. According to the IMF:

The Russian economy is predicted to grow 0.3% in 2023 despite setbacks from unprecedented Western sanctions over the Ukraine invasion, according to data released by the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on Monday.

Russia’s projected economic growth stands in sharp contrast with the 2.3% contraction forecast by the IMF in October and marks an improvement from the 2.2% decline recorded by the sanctions-hit economy in 2022.

If the 2023 projection is realized, it would put Russia ahead of Germany and the U.K., whose economies are projected to grow by 0.1% and shrink by 0.6%, respectively. The IMF is not beholden to Russia. It remains part of the U.S. controlled international economic order. Yet, it has concluded that the Russia economy will grow rather than shrink. Certainly does not conform to the dire prediction of U.S. intel analysts about a crumbling Russian economy languishing because of international sanctions. Why are the analysts ignoring this data point?

It is true that exiled Russians who oppose Putin continue to insist that the sanctions will work, we just have to give it more time before Russians scream. Vladimir Milov, a former Russian deputy energy minister and author of a Martens Centre report on sanctions insists that:

it may be more instructive to track a dozen or so “soft indicators” such as alcohol sales, divorce rates, shoplifting, spending on food, opinion polls, bank customer sentiment or tax revenues.

“Don’t look at the watch every five minutes to see if sanctions are working. Exercise strategic patience,” said Milov, who is also an ally of the jailed Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny Well, here is one of those “impoverished” Russian citizens doing a magnificent job of trolling:

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The truth is simple — Russia stands atop the world in being the major supplier of critical agricultural, energy and mineral resources that the West and countries in the so-called third world need. The only way the West could seriously damage the Russian economy would require it to destroy itself economically. Looks like Germany is discovering this fact with each passing month.

Then there is the tired meme of Russia being handed its ass in Ukraine. Although both Ukrainian and British officials insist that Russia is running out of weapons and ammunition, the war in Ukraine has revealed that the U.S. and Europe, not Russia, no longer have the ability to produce artillery shells, rockets and missiles on a scale that permits them to supply Ukraine while maintaining robust stocks at home:

“The first thing on the list was, everywhere, the ammunition,” Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas said.

“If you have the equipment and you don’t have the ammunition, then it’s no use,” the Estonian leader told reporters on Friday.

And while Ukraine is in dire need of vast amounts of ammo to keep fighting, Western countries’ own stocks are running low.

“It’s a very real concern,” said Ben Hodges, a former commander of U.S. Army Europe. “None of us, including the United States, is producing enough ammunition right now,” he said in a phone interview on Sunday. I will reiterate a point I have made in previous articles — Russia is not dependent on Western resources to produce its weapons and Russia has a robust, intact defense industry that is working 24-7 to produce ammunition, shells, rockets, tanks, vehicles for its military forces.

Here is a data point, not specifically military in nature, that underscores the fact that Russia can chew gum and walk at the same time:

The Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft, which is supposed to return cosmonauts Sergei Prokopiev, Dmitry Petelin and astronaut Frank Rubio to Earth instead of the damaged Soyuz MS-22, has docked with the Poisk small research module of the Russian segment of the ISS, our correspondent from the Center reports flight control.

Docking took place automatically. From the Earth, it was controlled by specialists from the Moscow Region Mission Control Center, from the ISS – by cosmonauts. Even though Russia is at war with the United States and NATO, it is still capable of sending, on an emergency basis with little prior warning, an unmanned space craft to the International Space Station to rescue two Russian cosmonauts and one American astronaut. The United States still indulges the fantasy that it is the technological leader of the world but it does not have the ability to do what the Russians accomplished this week. Just saying.

There are two major factors that explain why the U.S. intelligence analysts are so out of touch with reality. First, the CIA no longer has the ability to recruit Russian assets that have genuine access to Russia’s decision makers in Putin’s government and in the military. What senior Russian military officer worth a damn would want to commit treason to serve a country like the United States, whose military is focused on providing gender affirming policies, embracing the lie that men can have babies and lowering recruiting standards to accept people who can barely read? Yeah, let’s give those CAT 4 non-qualified swimmers and shooters the keys to a Patriot battery or M1 Ambrams tank.

Instead of snagging spies with real access, U.S. intelligence officers are content to recruit Russian malcontents who live outside Russia in hopes they can dish dirt on Putin and his supposedly incompetent military. There was a time when the culture and system of justice in the United States provided an incentive for Russians under the Soviet system to take such a risk. But those days are over. The United States is locking up political opponents, quashing independent media and attacking conservative religious organizations in ways that bear an uncanny resemblance to the former Soviet Union. I believe the Russians are now in a stronger position to recruit spies from America’s military and intelligence community because of the crazy woke policies that are prevalent in the United States. We have created a counter intelligence nightmare for our Republic, or what is left of it.

Second, intel analysts are captives of the CIA operations side of the house. Analysts are now embedded in “Centers” that put them side-by-side with operations personnel. Because the CIA’s covert action teams are invested heavily in Ukraine (and their future promotions hinge upon a success in Ukraine) the senior CIA personnel running those Centers will not countenance some ANALyst (emphais on ANAL) offering up analysis, based on genuine intelligence, that exposes the King with No Clothes. Joe Biden and his corrupt National Security team do not want to hear anything about the rampant corruption of Volodymry Zelensky and his cronies or the prevalence of fanatical neo-nazies in Ukraine.

Simply put, the U.S. intelligence community is obsessed with Pyrite and is insisting that it is genuine gold. I think it is only a matter of time before this house of cards crashes to the ground and the search for a scapegoat will ensue to determine “who lost Ukraine.” You can be sure of one thing — no senior official responsible for this debacle will be held accountable. Some mid-level careerist will get the shaft or, perhaps, Donald Trump will be blamed. History teaches a critical lesson — a government built on a foundation of lies will not endure. The Soviets and the Russian people learned this the hard way in 1991. I believe a comparable day of reckoning is coming for the United States and Europe.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dontbelieve; invasion; kook; larryjohnson; propaganda; russia; russianlies; ukraine; war
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Be sure to view the imbedded video of a Russian grocery store ( looks much like I saw when working in Moscow) and the Italian float during a demonstration ( yes, even the Italians get it).

Hey Joe, how’s them sanctions working out?

1 posted on 02/27/2023 4:39:17 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Ukraine is a money laundering operation for the deep state. President Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex. They are managing the war to try to extract the most money they can. They need to protect their bio labs and human trafficking operations.


2 posted on 02/27/2023 4:50:05 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: delta7
it may be more instructive to track a dozen or so “soft indicators” such as alcohol sales, divorce rates, shoplifting, spending on food, opinion polls, bank customer sentiment or tax revenues.

Meanwhile the Russians have run their soft indicators on the U.S. such as opioid sales, divorce rates, single sex "family" formations, shoplifting, public looting and rioting, government published disinformation levels, deficit spending, energy deficit trends, and reached the conclusion that the US is crumbling and with one good push will fall hard.

3 posted on 02/27/2023 4:53:02 PM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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To: delta7
Rather mixed post - some misleading assumptions made... but something I found interesting (and totally true):

has revealed that the U.S. and Europe, not Russia, no longer have the ability to produce artillery shells, rockets and missiles on a scale that permits them to supply Ukraine while maintaining robust stocks at home:

Why is this? And it presents a huge "what if" scenario.

If the RF/Ukraine war is draining the US/Western allies' musicians - then what would happen if we got into a shooting/conventional war with pretty much any significant foe? Artillery shells, like loaded small arms ammo - are essential and fundamental supplies needed in war. If the defense of Ukraine is depleting our supply - we would be totally screwed if any number of possible enemies picked a fight...

4 posted on 02/27/2023 4:56:27 PM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: delta7
“who lost Ukraine.”

I'm guessing ... Trump?

5 posted on 02/27/2023 5:00:01 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: delta7
Larry Johnson.

'nuff said.


6 posted on 02/27/2023 5:06:47 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: AndyJackson

militarily weak makes a nation a soft target for an enemy to engage in a war.


7 posted on 02/27/2023 5:13:51 PM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: delta7

When has this guy been right about anything?


8 posted on 02/27/2023 5:18:45 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: delta7
Ah, Larry Johnson the genius who has been so correct in the past on the Ukrainian war

Larry C Johnson noted:"The Ukrainian Army has (already) been defeated. What's left is Mop-Up." March 21, 2022

Russia’s arrival in Kiev within three days of the invasion also caught my attention...Yet many so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. ...The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins... The scale and scope of the Russian attack is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom

I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force. If anything, this Russian operation should scare the hell out of U.S. military and political leaders.

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/larry-c-johnson-the-ukrainian-army-has-been-defeated-whats-left-is-mop-up/

9 posted on 02/27/2023 5:19:19 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: TheBattman

Funny that we projected that Russia ran out of all of these things by week 3 of the SMO, when it is we who never had enough to strat with and the Russians seem to have no problem blowing lots of stuff up on a dare.


10 posted on 02/27/2023 5:23:00 PM PST by AndyJackson (.)
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To: delta7

Excellent article. Of course the Uketards immediately attack the messenger who knows far more than they do.


11 posted on 02/27/2023 5:23:26 PM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: delta7

US intel ( and that of our allies) now serves the function of supporting a narrative, not objectively reporting facts to help decisionmakers.

The facts be the facts however, and the consequences roll on, no matter what Biden Austin and Blinken are being briefed.


12 posted on 02/27/2023 5:29:01 PM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: TheBattman

Do be aware Lukashenko is flying to China, the war cheerleaders are going to explode when they find China is shipping weapons ( primarily drones) to Belarus, presumably for Belarus’s defense and not Russia, sure, wink, wink.

That said, if China is found to be solidly backing Russia ( they are economically, but not yet acknowledged militarily) we can expect the collective West to escalate and do something stupid.


13 posted on 02/27/2023 5:35:37 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

XiJinBiden, Cockwomble Castreau, Markie Rutte, UK PM Rishi Sumac, etc.; this bunch ‘do something stupid’?

You’re a real comedian! When have these jackasses NOT done something stupid? All they do, is do STUPID THINGS!


14 posted on 02/27/2023 5:54:02 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: delta7
we can expect the collective West to escalate and do something stupid.

Maybe, but consider this. If any of the five eyes get too directly involved, Russia takes out US Satellites, poking out the eye on the sky that feeds data to the AFU Nettle (And maybe plugs a defenseless carrier with a Kintzal). US takes out Russian satellites. Both AFU and RF are satellite blind in Ukraine - advantage RF. Then whose satellites are left - China. So China will not come forward more than they have militarily.

15 posted on 02/27/2023 6:02:50 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: dforest

Well, it’s that Larry C. Johnson has been so wrong for so long. He quite simply has no credibility.


16 posted on 02/27/2023 6:13:43 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: delta7

“Do be aware Lukashenko is flying to China...”

So what?

Zelensky is scheduled to meet with Xi, as well.


17 posted on 02/27/2023 6:16:18 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: frithguild
And maybe plugs a defenseless carrier with a Kintzal

more of your idiotic fantasizing, America-hater


18 posted on 02/27/2023 6:33:33 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe Russian-free for 75 years ... you're welcome)
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To: Timber Rattler

Wasn’t he the guy who wrote an article for the New York Times about how the terrorism threat against the US was declining, two months before September 11, 2001?

Reckon it was all downhill after that.


19 posted on 02/27/2023 6:43:52 PM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim IgnatowskD)
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To: delta7

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20 posted on 02/27/2023 7:07:24 PM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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