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The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia
Foreign Policy.com ^ | January 19, 2023 | Jeffrey Sonnenfeld & Steven Tian

Posted on 01/21/2023 7:09:47 AM PST by canuck_conservative

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the would-be Tsar's simple "1-month conquest of Ukraine" has turned out to be not so simple ...
1 posted on 01/21/2023 7:09:47 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Foreign Policy...

The Pravda of the Deep State establishment.


2 posted on 01/21/2023 7:14:28 AM PST by glorgau
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To: canuck_conservative

Europe was buying Russia’s oil and natural gas through intermediaries. India, a country with 3 times the population of Europe saw Russian energy rise from 3% of imports to 23% - over 7 times the amount. What India did not buy from the Middle East also went to Europe. If Russia stopped exporting energy the. prices would skyrocket.


3 posted on 01/21/2023 7:16:05 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Putin didn’t say that. The state media here in the US must have.

I know you bidenistas want Russia to be failing but the facts are that their economony is fine and they are selling oil easily to BRICS countries who were happy to pick up the slack.

https://thecradle.co/article-view/14036


4 posted on 01/21/2023 7:16:17 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: canuck_conservative

With the US soon to leave the fossil-fuel market, thanks to the Biden Administration, we’ll just see how things play out.


5 posted on 01/21/2023 7:17:24 AM PST by BobL
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To: canuck_conservative

Wanna bet?


6 posted on 01/21/2023 7:17:38 AM PST by wny
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https://thecradle.co/article-view/20606/pakistan-will-purchase-russian-oil-despite-western-threats-of-sanctions-oil-minister

Pakistan has announced it will continue to buy oil from Russia despite western sanctions imposed on Moscow following the start of the war in Ukraine.

“We have agreed that the payments will be paid in the currencies of friendly countries,” Russian Energy Minister Nikolay Shulginov said during a joint news conference on Friday alongside his Pakistani counterpart Ayaz Sadiq.


7 posted on 01/21/2023 7:20:38 AM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: canuck_conservative

An easy litmus test to measure if Russia is ‘winning’ is to ask the question “if Putin could do it all over again the same way would he?”.

I think probably not.


8 posted on 01/21/2023 7:21:33 AM PST by SpaceBar
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“Far from freezing to death, Europe quickly secured alternative gas supplies by pivoting to global liquefied natural gas (LNG)”

Is this why our heating/natural gas bills in California have gone from under 100/month to 400-500/month?

Europe secured supply from US and we are paying for it, again.


9 posted on 01/21/2023 7:22:19 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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This is asinine talk. India, China, and even Saudi Arabia are buying up Russian fuel. Before, they bought from the open market.

The same amount of oil is being redistributed via other channels to other countries. This has overhead we all pay for.

With natural gas, pipelines are generally required, and a lot of that is not flowing to Europe. However, this scarcity is problematically being met by the US via LNG, driving up our natural gas prices. Additionally, we aren’t adequately stepping up production of oil, so our oil prices are way up, too.

We need Russia, idiots.


10 posted on 01/21/2023 7:24:29 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SpaceBar

How is that a litmus test? LOL


11 posted on 01/21/2023 7:27:45 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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To: canuck_conservative

In real world, the Russian pipeline gas sales halved, the LNG sales quadrupled, resulting in twice the profit at -20% physical deliveries.
Oil exports increased by 2-5%.
The taxed paid by oil and gas exporters increased.
If Germany claimed that it doesn’t buy Russian oil, ordered Kazakh oil through the Russian pipeline to the refinery unable to operate on Kazakh oil, what oil do you think they are getting?
Regarding Indian diesel the entities rejected Russian diesel are buying, who do you think owns Indian refineries?


12 posted on 01/21/2023 7:31:56 AM PST by NorseViking
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The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia

As long as you exclude China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and South Africa from the world economy, then maybe.

but we also know that Europe merely uses the UAE to launder Russian gas, and the US uses India to launder Russian diesel and petroleum products.

so maybe we need to include EU and USA too.....

13 posted on 01/21/2023 7:34:16 AM PST by PGR88
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the would-be Tsar's simple "1-month conquest of Ukraine" has turned out to be not so simple ...
He made the mistake of supposing it was Ukraine he was fighting and not all of globohomo.

Meanwhile a good chunk of the world economy is seeking a way out from dependence on the US doller as a reserve currency.

14 posted on 01/21/2023 7:35:37 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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"The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia"

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15 posted on 01/21/2023 7:39:29 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: canuck_conservative

In other words, “buy our expensive American petroleum or else!”


16 posted on 01/21/2023 7:41:07 AM PST by struggle
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Europe was buying Russia’s oil and natural gas through intermediaries.

Not just Europe either...


17 posted on 01/21/2023 7:41:43 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: canuck_conservative

Cause we don’t need titanium.
And oil is fungible, I’m sure Russia isn’t pumping for no reason.


18 posted on 01/21/2023 7:43:41 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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"An easy litmus test to measure if Russia is ‘winning’ is to ask the question “if Putin could do it all over again the same way would he?”.

I think probably not.

Putin tried everything anybody could think of to avoid this shit.


19 posted on 01/21/2023 7:44:34 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: canuck_conservative

I don’t have to read past the headline to know this is utter bunk.

People will post any nonsense if it says what they like.


20 posted on 01/21/2023 7:45:30 AM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people - John Adams 1798)
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