Posted on 12/14/2022 5:47:42 AM PST by cotton1706
The House Republican Conference is still entrenched in an internal war over whether to reinstate an arcane rule that would empower any member to bring up a vote to oust a speaker at any time.
The bitter divide is only heating up and has emerged center stage in House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy’s quest for 218 votes to win the position. For McCarthy’s backers, the so-called motion to vacate is seen as little more than a promise of hostage taking, a tool that could be used by the right flank to hamstring McCarthy’s ability to lead the conference and effectively govern.
“There’s a reason [the motion to vacate] already got debated. You can’t govern with a gun to your head and that is what they are asking for. It makes us highly unstable, and it lays out the potential too for Democrats to take advantage of this and create absolute chaos,” Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a Texas Republican, told CNN. “There is a reason people are against it. You can scream the word accountability all you want … in the end it’s just a path to chaos, not stability, and we are going to have to be very united and very stable if we are going to govern properly. “
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More than one author is the tell-tale sign that this issue is REALLY important to the media Oligarchy.
The motion to vacate is nothing more that allowing the House to have the ability to choose another speaker during the session or during the congress if it feels the need to.
But the Ruling Oligarchy does not like checks to its power (they see them as “guns to their head”)
Since CNN is advocating against this (and their love of the Republicans), I think it is a great idea!
The issue in other language is called “a vote of confidence”
Does the current Speaker have the confidence of the majority party?
You are not there to govern. You are there to SERVE!
The motion to vacate is nothing more that allowing the House to have the ability to choose another speaker during the session or during the congress if it feels the need to.
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This would be a primary motion, Therefore .democrats could play havoc by constantly bringing the motion and stopping all business until the motion is addressed. Then we know if .democrats regain majority they would eliminate the rule so Republicans could not challenge their speaker.
“Since CNN is advocating against this (and their love of the Republicans), I think it is a great idea!”
When Mark Meadows, in the summer of 2015, submitted the privileged motion to vacate the chair just before the summer recess, it was a beautiful thing!
And it PISSED the Establishment off like nothing else.
The motion sat out there stewing for the rest of the summer and in September, John Boehner announced he was resigning as speaker.
A powerful oligarch was removed. And they didn’t like that at all!
“The motion to vacate is nothing more that allowing the House to have the ability to choose another speaker during the session or during the congress if it feels the need to.”
The Rule is CRITICAL to making sure that McCarthy isn’t another Paul Ryan, who looked at his job as nothing more than protecting Democrats. Without it, as you imply, McCarthy can promise ANYTHING (like the West did with Minsk 2) to get elected Speaker, and then TOTALLY IGNORE everything he promised.
And the rule is far from “Arcane” in that it was used to get rid of Boehner in 2015. (didn’t do us no good, but that’s another story)
“This would be a primary motion, Therefore .democrats could play havoc by constantly bringing the motion and stopping all business until the motion is addressed. Then we know if .democrats regain majority they would eliminate the rule so Republicans could not challenge their speaker.”
The Democrats have already removed the rule in the last congresses, and it should be restored.
The House sets the rules at the beginning of the Congress, so they could not change it mid-congress.
We can’t go through life worrying what the Democrats might do. The motion to vacate the chair is a legislative check to oligarchic power and should be restored.
It takes 4 journalism majors who are dumb as a box of rocks to understand what a “motion to vacate” is.
It is similar to the UK’s parlimentary rules where a vote of no confidence can be taken at any time. And since I have no confidence in McCarthy, I think it is a great idea. Unless we get racist Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) in his place. :(
Govern properly? I thought you were only 1 half of 1 third. That talking point seems to have disappeared. Now it’s on you to “govern properly”. If the people didn’t want chaos then you would have a stronger mandate. Let’s try a little chaos, governing properly leads to trillion dollar deficits, prioritizing gay marriage, sending jobs overseas, uncontrolled immigration and unlimited money to Ukraine. The more I think of it, maybe a little chaos is called for.
Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a Texas Republican is a WEF Devotee, WEF Stooge, WEF Butt-Boy. Pick your description. HE believes HE is there to GOVERN. HE did not misspeak.
Crenshaw and the WEF want to be WORLD RULERS and believe they DESERVE to be!!!!
a tool that should be used by the right flank to unstring McCarthy’s refusal to lead the conference and effectively govern by forcing him to represent his constituents.
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They work for US
Not the other way around.
Amen!
Typical WEFpedoprattle. Your job in Congress is not to govern. It is to represent the citizens of your district. And yes, hold government accountable to the people you represent. This asshat needs to be primaried out, stat!
“I thought you were only 1 half of 1 third. That talking point seems to have disappeared.”
Yes, you’re correct. That excuse vanished quite quickly and conveniently.
Republicans are like a bunch of children on the playground arguing over whether to use a 30-inch circle or a 32-inch circle to play a game of marbles. In the meantime...a Democrat gang from another school, armed with rocks and baseball bats, is sneaking up behind the Pubbies...getting ready to bash heads and steal lunch money.
It brought us Paul Ryan! Hell yeah!
The “..30-inch circle or a 32-inch circle ...” is another way of describing the Republican obsession with purity!
Purity first before power so the result is the Republicans rarely get power. Rats power first, power second, power, power, power, maybe if they get bored, they’ll talk about purity but well after power!
The problem with McCarthy is that he has been more focused over the past 6-12 months on securing HIS speakership than getting conservative candidates to win elections. If he won another 10-15 seats this probably wouldn’t be happening.
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