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Ukrainians in Russia fear mobilization: ‘If conscripted, I will shoot Russians and surrender’
Kyiv Independent ^ | October 28, 2022 12:09 am | Alexander Khrebet

Posted on 10/27/2022 2:52:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

Putin “declared” martial law in Russian-occupied regions of Ukraine on Oct. 19. The measure, while illegal, could be used to justify tighter control over essential infrastructure and public transportation.

The decree bans people from leaving the regions, greenlights Russian forces to deport people into Russia and confiscate their property, and establishes so-called “territorial defense units.” To fill those units, Russian troops plan to forcibly recruit locals.

In Russian-occupied Donetsk, Oleksii knows a thing or two about forced conscription. Like thousands of others, he has been hiding at home for over eight months as Russian proxies grab people from the street and send them to the front lines, usually as cannon fodder to halt Ukraine's counteroffensive.

When Putin announced mobilization, "nothing changed for me," Oleksii told the Kyiv Independent. Local proxies had launched a forced mobilization campaign from day one of the full-scale war.

In an attempt to cover yet another war crime, the Kremlin sped up passportization so that Russia could conscript more Ukrainians now labeled by Russia as "Russian citizens." Forcibly mobilizing people from occupied territories goes against the Geneva Conventions, to which Russia is a signatory.

Following Putin’s announcement annexing four Ukrainian regions – Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson oblasts – the Kremlin-controlled Russian Constitutional Court ruled that everyone in the occupied Ukrainian regions is now a Russian citizen.

The only way to not obtain a Russian passport in those regions is to officially write a request not to receive a Russian passport.

But even showing up to fill out the paperwork for such a request could be dangerous, Oleksii told the Kyiv Independent.

Another native of Donetsk, Dmytro, has left the occupied region of Ukraine in 2021 and is currently in Russia’s city Rostov. He is a Ukrainian citizen and doesn’t want to obtain a Russian passport.

(Excerpt) Read more at kyivindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alexanderkhrebet; donetsk; putin; russia; ukraine

1 posted on 10/27/2022 2:52:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Ukrainians in Russia for economic or other reasons (e.g. to stay close to family or evade the Ukrainian draft) prepare for induction into the Russian military as mobiks.


2 posted on 10/27/2022 2:52:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

There are thousands of Ukrainians who live in Russia. They are so intermingled. We have the same here in my area...husband & wife...one is Russian and one is Ukrainian. Bet that way since at least WWII.


3 posted on 10/27/2022 2:58:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

You shoot Russians, Russians shoot you.


4 posted on 10/27/2022 2:59:44 PM PDT by rod5591
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To: Zhang Fei

See? Ukrainians are not so different from Russians after all. Both of them surrender to Ukraine after they are drafted!


6 posted on 10/27/2022 3:01:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

LoL


7 posted on 10/27/2022 3:05:27 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Zhang Fei

8 posted on 10/27/2022 3:05:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Zhang Fei

Just remembered a story passed down in my family. Northern Wisconsin during the civil war. A guy was out plowing his field when Union troops approached him, shot his dog, drafted him on the spot. Nobody ever saw the poor guy again.


9 posted on 10/27/2022 3:11:58 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Everybody vaxxed was injured, your degree of damage and timing may differ)
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To: Cold Heart

[Just remembered a story passed down in my family. Northern Wisconsin during the civil war. A guy was out plowing his field when Union troops approached him, shot his dog, drafted him on the spot. Nobody ever saw the poor guy again.]


Getting shanghaied has been happening to random people throughout history. Alexander press ganged large numbers of men from the Persian empire in his efforts to conquer the known world. IIRC, his promotion of some of these men on the basis of demonstrated ability without regard to ethnicity was a constant source of friction with his Greek compatriots.


10 posted on 10/27/2022 3:22:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei

Why haven’t they gone back to the Ukraine???

Because there is ALREADY a draft in place there...for all males 18-60. Literally pulling 50 year olds out of the pools.


11 posted on 10/27/2022 3:27:20 PM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: Cold Heart

“Just remembered a story passed down in my family. Northern Wisconsin during the civil war. A guy was out plowing his field when Union troops approached him, shot his dog, drafted him on the spot. Nobody ever saw the poor guy again.”

They were probably Bears fans, had it in for the Packers fan.


12 posted on 10/27/2022 3:37:43 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: 2banana

That usually happens when your country is invaded.


13 posted on 10/27/2022 4:43:24 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: Zhang Fei

Umm, I think he’ll be slaughtered in a rain of bullets. They will need a snow shovel to put in him a bag.


14 posted on 10/27/2022 6:37:57 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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Thanks Zhang Fei.

15 posted on 10/28/2022 9:06:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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“The Nazi command has deployed Right Sector units to prevent the Ukrainian Armed Forces from retreating from Artemivsk (Bakhmut). Up to 200 Right Sector fighters have been deployed in this direction and have been ordered to stop the retreat of units of the 93rd Army Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14075
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“The 128th Mountain Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine paid dearly for yesterday’s attempt to attack. The situation is close to rebellion, they refuse to go forward.

Berislav direction.”
https://t.me/voenacher/31151
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“I think, despite the intensification of exchanges, the number of Ukrainian prisoners of war is growing and growing. I think their number is approaching 8000.”
https://t.me/Sladkov_plus/6538

“The average lifespan of a Ukrainian mobilized recruit now is approximately 10 days — from the time he is grabbed off the street to the time he falls on the battlefield.
Foreign mercenaries—which by and large have become regular Polish and Romanian (and other NATO countries’) troops masquerading as “volunteers” — loath the idea of being used as cannon fodder and behave as regular colonial expeditionary forces.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/17146

“The Ukrainian command continues to throw its soldiers into new suicidal attacks in the area of the Donetsk airport.
As a result of the competent actions of the scouts of the DPR special forces battalion, the enemy suffered heavy losses,
and now the approaches to our positions are literally strewn with the bodies of destroyed Ukrainian militants.”
https://t.me/intelslava/40211

“A Ukrainian servicewoman has praised our mobilized soldiers’ fighting ability and criticizes the Ukrainian side for underestimating them:

Schmucks, eh?
Bums, eh?

Are you civilians and all the rest of you fools or what?
Do you really think that our people are dying at the hands of inept mobilised troops,
that our people are so degenerate that in some areas they are almost dying by the company at the hands of inexperienced mobilised troops?

You’re really f**ked up…”

https://nyka.livejournal.com/22943000.html


16 posted on 10/28/2022 10:26:07 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Zhang Fei

I wouldn’t give you a chance to.


17 posted on 10/28/2022 10:37:48 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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