Posted on 10/13/2022 8:19:36 AM PDT by ganeemead
A single S300 missile costs over $1,000,000.
"How much does an s300 missile cost?
(One S-300 missile system is estimated to cost some $115 million, the cost of each missile is over one million US$.)"
A complete S300 system would be North of $100M; A beggar nation like Malorossiya would not be able to afford huge numbers of them.
Now, I haven't seen any real cost figures for the little Iranian kamikaze drones, but...
The electronics and air-frame couldn't easily be more than around $1000
The warhead, another 1000 maybe (guessing)
Thje only thing halfway expensive in the picture in the picture is the engine, a German design that would run a hobbyist around 20K, quantity one. For Iranians to manufacture those or purchase them in bulk, you'd likely divide that 20K figure by five or ten. Those things are every sophisticated for what they are,but you're still only talking about a small 2-stroke engine.
Russians are either buying those things in bulk from Iran or they have a license to manufacture them.Total cost quantity one to Russia probably 5k - 10K.
Consider what that means... Even if Ukronazis get lucky and manage to bring one of the Shahed/Geran drones down with an S300, they've just expended a 1M missile to stop a 5K toy airplane.
The ONLY cost effective way to shoot one of them down would probably be with a phalanx gun or some such and you'd have to get lucky. Flight-paths are pre-programmed and Russians could simply set the last 300 meters or so at 40' off the ground.
I'm guessing that ukies shot some of them down with missiles over the past few days and that they don't have a whole lot of missiles left, Reports are that Russia just ordered another 2400 of the things.........
Remember the Obama years when Iran captured an undamaged US drone? I wonder how helpful that was to their drone development program.
In WWII, the low-tech V-1 flying bomb was very cost-effective. The much more technically impressive V-2 was not cost effective. But it did get Werner von Braun a job with NASA.
Alex Christoforou reports that #PedoHitler's puppeteers are thinking about sanctioning RuZZian aluminum.
10 percent of US supply.
Just think of the impact that would have on US inflation.
And got von Braun immunity re his war crimes.
Might have given them ideas, but these things are more sophisticated than anything we had at that time. These things are multiple-ways sophisticated, but the most frightening thing in the whole picture is the economics of it.
> The much more technically impressive V-2 was not cost effective. <
Good point. The Germans valued quality over quantity. The Soviets did just the opposite. And we all know who won that little spat.
Both sides have used off the shelf drones available in department stores and hobby shops meant for recreational enthusiasts. They have been armed and used effectively.
There is little doubt that terrorists and sleeped cells within the US have noted this use of drones. Wonder if the FBI that spends so much time, money and manpower tracking gun sales and arresting pro life activists, school board critics and political opponents of Biden, have the inclination to monitor and arrest these terrorists who wish to mass slaughter Americans. Can never forget that when the FBI was informed that Arab students at a Arizona flight school only want to learn how to manuveur and fly a multi engine jet already in flight but not how to land or take off, the FBI did not thoroughly investigate lest they be guilty of “profiling”. Sorry doubt they are currently any good at protecting Americans from enemies foreign or domestic.
“In WWII, the low-tech V-1 flying bomb was very cost-effective. The much more technically impressive V-2 was not cost effective.”
And no matter how cost effective either of them was, neither was actually effective in achieving the goals that Hitler and the Germany military wanted and needed to achieve with them.
Hobbyist drones are quadcopters, these are real airplanes.
“And we all know who won that little spat.”
Certainly not the Soviets. They needed the USA to prop them up and bail them out.
And the Soviets tried the same approach in the Cold War vs the USA going the quality approach, and the Soviet approach failed there also. As it is failing against quality Western weapons again in Ukraine.
A S300 is designed to shoot down supersonic Gen 4+ airplanes costing $100M or more.
For a slow drone, there are plenty of alternative methods to interpret
An SU-34 costs $40 million.
The barage of missles that Russia sent on the first day after the Ukraine bridge blue up cost $700 million.
So $1 million to shoot down a $40 million plane is a worthwhile investment. Althought cheaper means should be used if effective.
Is it cheaper to use S-300 missiles to shoot down Russian missiles and planes or let those Russian missiles hit and take the damage.
My guess is that the missiles are the cheaper option.
Ukronazis haven’t been having much luck at that recently, most of the drones got through. It’can’t be that easy...
The V-2 being more sophisticated was also very easy to sabotage by the forced-laborers used by Von Braun’s outfit.
> Certainly not the Soviets. They needed the USA to prop them up and bail them out. <
It would be an interesting hypothetical to see how the Eastern Front would have turned out without the US aid to the Soviets. I suspect they still would have reached Berlin, just a little later.
In a way it’s like the French help during our Revolution. We probably still would have won in the long run.
Any splinter group could buy and use these to attack, say, our power substations, water treatment facilities, etc. Even use them to dump fentanyl in our reservoirs.
10% not a lot of impact on inflation.
But it will boost US aluminum industry and provide more US jobs.
So absolutely sanction Russian aluminum.
pinwheels-for-eyes.
It’s not so much the relative values of the missiles, as it is the value of the target being defende. Using a $1M missile to protect a target worth $1B from a drone worth $20K might make sense.
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