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To: JonPreston

You can still believe this to be true, as I do, and at the same time root for Putin to lose. I don’t know why some Freepers can’t wrap their heads around that.


7 posted on 10/09/2022 4:41:39 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength. )
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To: sam_whiskey
at the same time root for Putin to lose

Try rooting for peace to win, then get back to me.

9 posted on 10/09/2022 4:44:39 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: sam_whiskey

I think the same.


10 posted on 10/09/2022 4:44:57 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: sam_whiskey

“You can still believe this to be true, as I do, and at the same time root for Putin to lose. I don’t know why some Freepers can’t wrap their heads around that.”

That is where I stand too. BOTH sides are wrong, two wrongs do not make a right. There just is no “Good side” in this mess.


12 posted on 10/09/2022 4:46:30 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: sam_whiskey

Biden absolutely encouraged the invasion, just not the way many think.

He announced Russia was going to invade, pulled out US personnel, said there was no way we would fight Russia, and basically said a “limited incursion” would be ok.

And this followed the retreat from Afghanistan.

Biden only finally aided Ukraine after intense pressure from both parties.


38 posted on 10/09/2022 5:20:36 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: sam_whiskey

“You can still believe this to be true, as I do, and at the same time root for Putin to lose...”

I agree with you.


44 posted on 10/09/2022 5:29:15 AM PDT by RonEB
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To: sam_whiskey

I don’t ‘wrap my head around’ that because the potential price is too high given the rhetoric flying around about nukes and Zelenksy sitting fat and happy to egg it all on.

We owe Ukraine nothing. Maybe Biden does but I don’t. They never kicked back a sleazy dime to me. The were NEVER part of NATO, we have no treaty with them.

If Zelensky wants world intervention he should have gone to the UN to plead his case and form a world coalition like GHWB did with Gulf War I during Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. He didn’t. He just whined, shamed, goaded, and chastised and then demanded billions of dollars. Billions - near trillion now from all the handwringing western countries - none of them sanctioned by anything chartered.

Ukraine is simply not worth a nuclear exchange


66 posted on 10/09/2022 6:16:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: sam_whiskey
What US national interest has had the US plotting for war with Russia since at least the Orange Revolution ---- and in 2016 Graham and McCain promising Ukrainian soldiers "2017 will be the year of offense" with full US support? (But, gratefully, then came Trump)

Video: https://youtu.be/JeWHviwLMy8

107 posted on 10/09/2022 9:14:07 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: sam_whiskey
You can still believe this to be true, as I do, and at the same time root for Putin to lose.

Good gawd!

120 posted on 10/09/2022 2:39:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sam_whiskey
and at the same time root for Putin to lose

Except it's not "Putin" who loses, it is Russia, and it's not "Zelensky" who wins, it's a relentlessly spreading relativistic, atheistic transnational movement which is the enemy of everything real Americans rightly hold dear.

124 posted on 10/09/2022 6:21:21 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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