Time to tax gas more to make EVs look better. That’s how they do it.
But, mayor buttjuice said we could save eleventy billion dollars if we bought a 60 kilobuck car
6 months ago, Tesla owners and everyone in media was gloating “look how cheap it is to operate an EV!”
Hey, at least they’re helping save the... Whatever.
Stupid or ultra stupid is your choice EV owners.
FAKE NEWS!!!
No EV owner is STUPID ENOUGH to take his vehicle out of range of their home charging station, so please try again.
Just use the electrical power plants to provide more, cheaper electricity.
To the left, electricity is the power source and not the end product.
It looks like the “break-even” is at about 0.40 per kWh with gasoline at $3.15 a gallon, but that depends on the “kWh per mile” spec on the electric vehicle, and the MPG of the ICE vehicle...EV’s range from about 0.24 kWh per mile to about 0.50 kWh per mile, and I used 27 mpg for an ICE vehicle @ $3.15/gal. to play with the #’s.
1 gallon of gasoline equals 33.7 kWh of electricity so a direct conversion in California at about 0.35 per kWh yields a gasoline eq. of $11.79/gallon, but most EV’s do about .25 kWh per 1 mile which figures to about 135 “MPG”. (Someone check my math using the links below). ;-)
Here are some calculators & info. if you want to run the numbers yourself:
https://ecocostsavings.com/electric-car-kwh-per-mile-list/
https://www.inchcalculator.com/electric-vehicle-fuel-savings-calculator/
If anyone has more/better “eMPG” info./links please add them to this thread!
Gotta get that cost of leaving home on parity! Otherwise, people might use their electric cars to have the freedom to move around.
Plus you get to wait hours to get a charge for the car and a BIG charge on your credit card.
Check out the Huge line at this EV charging station in California…
Posted by Kane on September 23, 2022 11:11 am
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/check-out-the-huge-line-at-this-ev-charging-station-in-california/
This was as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
Surprise! All battery powered cara do ia central the pollution they create since they mostly run on coal power.
Here’s my question. Gas users are paying state/Cty/Fed taxes on their gas purchase. What are the taxes for EV elec consumers? Or is it “0”?
Bottom line: Deep States don’t want people driving.
Period.
And they are doing a great job at it so far.
Gas is cheaper in the U.S. We had a RAV4 Prime in 2020-2021, a chargeable hybrid. Charging off house current (at the time) was about half the cost of gasoline, per mile, but public charging stations nearby cost about the same as gasoline. Gas was a lot back then, of course.
And by the target date of 2035, when (in their elitist unicorn single digit IQ brains) only EVs are on the road, the cost per charge will be ten times what it is today. Suckers.
Last night on the tv weather forecast, they suggested that anyone in the path of the hurricane fill their gas tanks. They showed the lines at gas stations.
Now fast forward to a world where there are no gas stations, no gas tanks, no gas. It’s all electric. Millions of people plug their EVs in, and poof! the grid collapses.
But it won’t happen, because you won’t be allowed to charge your EV. Only authorized EVs will be able to charge when there’s a severe weather alert. So forget about evacuation. Forget about driving to higher ground. Forget about going to aunt Suzie’s. Freeze in the dark while your house is blown away.
I’m sure we will soon be taxed on miles driven...in addition to any taxes at the pump.
“These figures very clearly show that it’s drivers who use public rapid and ultra-rapid chargers the most who are being hit the hardest.”
Again, opponents* fail to grasp that most EV owners charge most EVs at home most of the time.
Yes, public chargers may be expensive - and still cost less than a normal gas fill-up. These are not used often. These are for the rare days one may drive more than battery range (over 200-500 miles), or the rare owners who didn’t realize home charging is part of planning to own an EV.
No surprise that public chargers will normalize their cost to competitive with gas, the real thing being purchased being _milage_. High-power public chargers may be relatively expensive to home (roughly $0.50/kWh vs $0.02/kWh), as gas costs about $0.15/mile and public charging will rise to profit yet still undermine.
With a little work, home electric still enjoys the benefit of being a separate market, which one can leverage to very low costs per mile for EVs. Install a separate 240V line, operate off-hours, charge nightly, result is close to $0.01/mile in many areas.
End result is: as public charger availability & cost increases to satisfy growing demand, they’re still not the dominant driver of EV per-mile power cost. Gloating that a public charger, under most extreme cases, costs nearly as much as gas (per mile) is missing the point: EVs are still cheaper to operate ... and oh BTW most EV drivers don’t use those public chargers.
(* - I don’t grasp why opponents of EVs are so seethingly enraged by EVs. If you don’t want one, don’t buy one.)
oopsie!
they are getting ahead of themselves
this is supposed to happen after gas cars are banned
i predict a huge increase in the good health of Americans
due to all the walking