Russian Army river crossing failed again, abandon several armored vehicles, equipment and fled

https://www.defenceview.in ^ | September 10, 2022 | administration

[Jimmy Valentine]

And winter is just two months away.

[RitaOK]

Speaking of “EVIL”...

We forget the UKR government was corrupt and whose force it is that you’re rooting for, who is behind this snarly battle from the start.

Trump wanted OUT of NATO.

NATO [US led] paid the UKR government to let them poke the bear next door, to use UKR as a playground for NATO’s pointy-end military weapons and joint “exercises”, paid UKR through the US Defense Department (recall Victoria Nuland testimony with Rubio) to set up “health” labs, for the same perverted Wuhan-like bio-weapons research as we taxed Americans funded in China.

Never mind the UKR tolerating the AZOV Battalion who curiously remain separate from the UKR ARMY, and permitted to reign and rule against the people of the two border territories of Donbass and Levansk, who largely still retain the language of Russia and the traditional Russian Orthodox religion and families in Russia.

Considering the blackout of coverage by the American communist media, ignorance of Putin’s intentions to remain a sovereign land, to never give way to globalist threat or rule, nor to the increasingly tyrannical NATO- Western influence pushing both one world government and one world “religion”, using bio-weapons and Climate Control as they are doing, HERE.

The USA certainly reacted in the same emergency manner as Russia does now, against the same threat to the U.S., 90 miles off our shores in the Cuban missile crisis. No bio-weapon threat existed at the time. No threat to the people in the state of Florida existed at that time, from a rogue Battalion of enforcers.

When this is over, by the grace of God, Putin will be proven to be no saint, but no Stalin. Russia will be proven sovereign, but no USSR, and the USA, under puppet Biden, will be proven complicit in attempting to convert freedom and to defeat the sovereign nations, annihilate populations and bring poverty, ignorance and submission to global power.

Putin fights. Is he fighting our war, as traditional America used to fight for others?

Wake up, America.

[ridesthemiles]

NOBODY in Russian military doesn’t know that tanks don’t float well???

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

Speaking of “EVIL”...

We forget the UKR government was corrupt ONLY BY RUSSIAN EMBEDDED AGENTS behind this snarly battle from the start.

Points to remember:

1. Independent Ukraine
The population of Ukraine voted overwhelmingly for independence in the referendum of December 1, 1991.
(About 84 percent of eligible voters turned out for the referendum, and about 90 percent of them endorsed independence.)
[When Ukrainians voted for independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, all of its 24 “oblasts,” or regions – including Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea – supported Ukraine independence.
The minority of ethnic Russians were included as Ukrainian citizens in an independent state voted for independence. The ethnic Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine’s east did not automatically support the separatists or want to be part of Russia.

Since 2014, some 1.5 million people have left the Donbass to live in other parts of Ukraine.

The exact point is the minority ethically Russian or Russian speakers other ethnic minorities in Crimea & Donbass region were living peacefully For most of the first two decades after Ukraine independence.

In other words, being an ethnic Russian or a Russian speaker does not indicate that one sees its self as part of the Russian World. There has been an increase in sentiment of a strong, unified Ukrainian identity since 1991.

Most Ukrainians see their future as a sovereign country that is part of Europe. Of course, this DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS PUTIN’S GOALS. Putin FANTASIZES A RUSSIAN EMPIRE BY invoking the concept of the “Russian World” or “Russkiy Mir” – that Russian civilization extends to everywhere that ethnic Russians live no matter where Russians are in the world

THEN in 2022, Putin invasion was fought against by Ukrainians that wanted their FREEDOM from Putin/Russian control.

[RitaOK]

I do not argue against the people of UKR. I think it perfectly possible the Ukrainian people are no different than we Americans, who had no idea the depth of corruption of their government.

My argument was confined to the UKR usefulness to NATO
to poke the bear.