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Defected Russian Paratrooper is saying how he and his comrages "LIED TO" about Ukraine || 2022
Warthog Defense ^ | Aug 28, 2022 | Russian para trooper

Posted on 08/30/2022 12:22:07 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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1 posted on 08/30/2022 12:22:07 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Defected Russian Paratrooper is saying how he and his comrages “LIED TO” about Ukraine || 2022

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMwNowrvrFc


2 posted on 08/30/2022 12:25:52 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

We got the same thing here.


3 posted on 08/30/2022 12:39:40 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Were they required to get the vaccine?


4 posted on 08/30/2022 12:44:42 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: alternatives?

“Were they required to get the vaccine?”

I do not know for sure. However, I do know do one refuses to do what they are told without consequences.


5 posted on 08/30/2022 12:52:39 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Watch Crimea. More fun soon.


6 posted on 08/30/2022 12:56:19 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Soldiers being lied to about what they’re being sent to do - can’t imagine that has EVER happened in the history of warfare...

Must I? /sarcasm


7 posted on 08/30/2022 12:58:14 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Defected American Paratrooper is saying how he and his comrades “LIED TO” about Okinawa

Tokyo Rose, 1945, shortly before the Japanese victory.

LOL.


8 posted on 08/30/2022 12:59:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: larrytown

Well at least the Japs didn’t lie:

“Honorable kamikaze pilots of Rising Sun Empire of Japan, today you going on most dangerous mission. Today you take kamikaze airplane high up in the sky, find Yankee aircraft carrier, bring kamikaze plane down fast, crashing on deck, killing yourself and all aboard. Now, before we have ceremonial sake toast, are there any questions? Yah, in the back, Sakimoto.”

“Honorable General, Sir!”

“Ah so!”

“Are you out of your $#%@&$% mind?”


9 posted on 08/30/2022 1:00:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Travis McGee

“Kiev Rose” and the Goats of Kherson.


10 posted on 08/30/2022 1:25:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: larrytown

Now, at last, the Truth! No wonder Russians are not fighting well! Ukraine is Winning Big. This time in October TOTAL VICTIRY!


11 posted on 08/30/2022 1:51:23 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

I’m shocked! A fascist 20 year dictatorship lies! Imagine that. 😄


12 posted on 08/30/2022 2:40:49 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“Ukraine war veterans on how Kiev plundered US aid, wasted soldiers, endangered civilians, and lost the war”
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/08/18/ukraine-veterans-us-aid-soldiers-war/

“A Ukrainian’s Letter from the Front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94RYVNg9bfA

“I took a LIBERAL, ANTI WAR Protester to see the truth in Donbass, and THIS Happened!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OysQ7yQl_o


13 posted on 08/30/2022 2:50:18 PM PDT by cranked
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“Based on the accounts CBS is unable to verify...” Enough said!


14 posted on 08/30/2022 2:55:50 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
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15 posted on 08/30/2022 3:11:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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16 posted on 08/30/2022 3:12:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
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17 posted on 08/30/2022 3:28:54 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Brellium

You seem to love that fag porno. Did you star in it ?


18 posted on 08/30/2022 4:36:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: cranked
Allow me to do this again.

Thanks for posting this. I watched the last one and here is a little of the transcript:

And during this trip, he went to a school and found a bunch of books there in the school library and brought those books and showed those books to us. And this interview was about these findings. And these books are aimed at children. From schoolchildren from like probably seven years old till the time they finish school. So they are different levels. Starting from just books with pictures because little children, they think in images they don't really read much, but they remember pictures to history books to all kinds of analytical books.

So it's that literature that is needed for the education and it is clear that from the early age, it gets put into the brains of children, how we are enemies with Ukraine, that we are not brother nations (like the Russians think), that we have zero common cultural background, that doesn't exist, that we are enemies, that we should be hated, that we are basically being dehumanized in their eyes from the early age on.

Imagine seeing that for someone who went to school and learned there that was Kiev Rus Kievskaya Rus - Kiev Russia, that Kiev is the mother of all Russian cities. There is a stone in Kiev with engraving on it: "From here the Russian land began". You know, and then you see the other side. What is taught to the kids in the Ukraine. And I still ask why, why, why all this lies?

Why all this hatred being indoctrinated? And this is the reason why there are people in Ukraine... I know not all of them, I'm absolutely sure. Just like there are different Russians, there are different Ukrainians, not all of them, but truly there are people in Ukraine who support and have supported these bombings of Donbass, this elimination of the population there during all these years.

Here is how the translator, Maria, felt before going to Donbass to find our for herself.

Maria: Okay, John, let's start from the beginning. All right. Just as background information, if you will, because it's not only true for myself, it's true for millions of people in Russia, horrified by this war. We all have ties with Ukraine. Either it's blood ties because it's family members or it's friends, or it's both. It's inseparable. We are the same people.

Probably if someone from Ukraine heard that now, they would be denying that as vehemently as they could. But we are the same actually. We grew up on the same movies, on the same music, on the same literature. We like the same food. We have the same cultural references. We truly are as close as nations as it can only possibly be.

The war with Ukraine is the most horrific thing that could possibly happen. I honestly do not have a vocabulary to describe that because it just shouldn't exist. So those words don't exist in my language or in English language or in any language, I believe, because it's just beyond for us to imagine that we could go with war to Ukraine from, as we say in Russian, every iron, every day we hear how this war, how these horrors, how this aggression is unmotivated, how Russia went insane, how Ukraine is suffering, how it's absolutely undeserved, unprovoked, unreasonable and how there is no forgiveness to anyone who is Russian. How we all, 150 millions of us, support it. What horrible people we are, all of that. Well, you know.

Yeah, of course. I think every everybody knows that I don't have exact numbers. I don't think anyone has. But according to different evaluations and they vary from 200 thousands to 2 million people fled Russia since the beginning of the war. And i refuse to call it special operation. It is war. Okay. You know, they fled Russia, just like Ukrainians flee Ukraine Only they flee because they cannot stay here anymore. They suffocate here. They see Z's on cars and on billboards, on even on socks, for God's sake, on everything. And it honestly makes you feel like you have no air. You can not see this. You can not see this. It's unbearable physically.

When it started, I fled to the Far East to work in a rehab center because it would mean that I would stay inside that rehab center and i wouldn't go out and wouldn't be exposed to these Z's. And that was the only way to survive it, basically because I don't know. It's like you feel like you need to walk out of the window because you can not live through that.

This is what is done to the people of Russia, by the media, by the news, by this continuous narrative that we are I can say "the bad guy", but it doesn't cover it. It's I don't know, 1% of what we are. Right. In the eyes of the world. That's what it is. Yeah. So this was the beginning for me.

Sometime in April, I believe it was, you sent me the subtitles to translate from several interviews that you took in Mariupol. and I was listening to what people were saying, trying to make sense of it, trying to convey what they were saying the best way possible.

And it was very much like I was listening to the Russian side of the propaganda. It made me feel like, wait a second, that doesn't match. And they could not be the propaganda people because they are just simple people on the streets. They're not actors. It's obvious that they're not actors. and it was a very serious question in my head.


19 posted on 08/30/2022 6:47:19 PM PDT by higgmeister (Ultra Ucrainagens ismus delenda est)
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To: Vaden

I’m shocked! A fascist 20 year dictatorship lies! Imagine that. 😄

Your comment is so concise and incontrovertibly true.
I appreciated this young Russian soldier sharing his personal experience. Unfortunately, now his life is probably in danger. Putin doesn’t like truth to be expressed.


20 posted on 08/30/2022 9:03:57 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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