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Electric Car Drivers: Why You Might Not Be Pumped Over Privacy-Jolting Mileage Taxes(DOH!)
realclearinvestigartions.com ^ | 8/2/2022 | Eric Felten

Posted on 08/08/2022 6:48:53 AM PDT by rktman

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To: nascarnation

Agreed. You know what the basis for Congress’ month long August recess is?

Heat
Biting Horse Flies

I think windows without screens or windows nailed shut goes well with your suggestion.


21 posted on 08/08/2022 7:24:24 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Carry On!)
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To: bigfootbob

If hilLIARy had won ‘agenda 21’ (I believe) was a their plan for the year 2021.

Now they are planning it for the year 2030.


22 posted on 08/08/2022 7:32:41 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: rktman
There won't be a need to use GPS tracking or odometer readings to generate revenue for roads and bridges.

The most feasible scenario is that all infrastructure will be funded through surcharges on electric utility bills. It won't matter if you drive an ICE vehicle, an EV, or no vehicle at all.

23 posted on 08/08/2022 7:33:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Captain Rhino
....a flat yearly fee (based on some reasonable estimate) and let the taxpayer choose whichever they want to pay.

That is what Illinois does. They charge the EV owners an extra $100 or so for the yearly license plate renewal. The question is how do the feds get their pound of flesh..

24 posted on 08/08/2022 7:37:10 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: bigfootbob
Another little gem in the UN’s & the WEF’s plan, (that is never discussed especially during the summer months), is the total elimination of air conditioning for businesses and homes.

Sorry, that's not going to work.

Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, South and North Carolina, Louisiana, Mississipi, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Arkansas will secede from the Union.

And this time we got NUKES.

25 posted on 08/08/2022 7:38:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: bigfootbob

“total elimination of air conditioning for businesses and homes.”

That should cause the South to secede from the union a second time.

Hot and sweaty people get very very angry....

;-)


26 posted on 08/08/2022 7:40:15 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ConservativeMind

With technology as it is today, it would be cheap and easy to

install an app in all vehicles (required to start car).

incentivize masses to install a fuel/energy app on their phone by telling them its a special program that discounts the cost of fuel and electric used to power their vehicle.

Fuel and Electric providers will happily assist the Government effort to market their product and collect the data from every transaction.

What you would end up with, is a refueling point that requires no clerk or register. Instead, the charges would appear on your monthly energy bill (because gas/fuel/electric become a Government service w/each kiosk acting as a digital revenue agent)

Game over, your car doesn’t move without the government knowing when, Where from, where to, how far, how much energy/fuel used and likely what the topic of the hour was.....

If you think about it, we’re 99% , there already


27 posted on 08/08/2022 7:40:48 AM PDT by jmclemore (There Is No Hell For Those Who See God Where Ever They Look. )
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To: rigelkentaurus
"Ban gasoline and diesel taxes. When you do your annual car registration, the odometer is read. Tax is based on miles driven and vehicle mass. More mass and more miles is more usage and more tax."

Exactly...no need for any real-time surveillance state. 'Tain't "rocket science"....

28 posted on 08/08/2022 7:46:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: ConservativeMind

Makes too much sense, not invasive enough.


29 posted on 08/08/2022 7:50:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: rktman

“”They don’t like us ordinary folks being able to just drive anywhere we want, how far we want, in any direction we want.””

Exactamundo.

In the Soviet Union they required ‘papers’ to travel anywhere outside one’s immediate area. The dirty Big secret is that they did not issue any ‘papers’ to over 80% of the people.

If you did actually have your ‘papers’ you needed to prove, each and every day, that you were a good little commie. At any time, and for any reason, your ‘papers’ could be revoked, and access to transportation ceased.


30 posted on 08/08/2022 7:52:00 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: nascarnation

I’ll go you one better, eliminate DC.


31 posted on 08/08/2022 7:58:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: nascarnation

What a great idea! If they believe in climate change surely they will be happy to contribute


32 posted on 08/08/2022 8:03:46 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: rigelkentaurus
Ban gasoline and diesel taxes. When you do your annual car registration, the odometer is read. Tax is based on miles driven and vehicle mass. More mass and more miles is more usage and more tax.

And if you drive on vacation in other states, that mileage will be taxed in your state not theirs. This is one reason they are pushing universal monitoring. To make it more "fair". Of course, the fact that they get to track people's movements is just an incidental and unintended side-effect of this.

33 posted on 08/08/2022 8:04:28 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: rktman

We have lots of toll roads in Florida. I pay a minimum of $900/year in tolls. And, at current prices, about $3600/year for gasoline. And I don’t really drive that much...mostly the 250 miles each way between my South and central Florida homes once a month. One of my cars almost never leaves the garage...675 total miles in 4+ years.


34 posted on 08/08/2022 8:53:53 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Peein' in the Gene Pool )
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To: Fester Chugabrew

“Develop vehicles that defy gravity by magnetism and we could eliminate a large portion of infrastructure maintenance.”

Actually, that would require INCREASING the infrastructure!


35 posted on 08/08/2022 9:12:36 AM PDT by TexasGator (ice )
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To: EVO X

“The question is how do the feds get their pound of flesh?”

Here in Virginia, the VA State Income Tax is initially based on what is reported on the Federal return. From there they apply the various VA state exemptions, exceptions, rules,etc. Something similar could be done with the EV tax. The mileage value reported for one becomes the initial value for the others.

How many millions of cars, trucks, etc. are there in the United States? Maybe that’s what most of the 87k new IRS employees will be doing: checking mileage claimed against odometer readings.

“Hi! It’s the IRS. We are here to check the odometer readings on your cars.”

And the IRS thinks it’s unpopular now…


36 posted on 08/08/2022 9:32:28 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: iamgalt

That is what the smiling ICE folks don’t quite get. Do they really think this will be limited to EVs? This has been proposed for years, and buying in to teach
those ‘EV fools’ a lesson is a fools game.


37 posted on 08/08/2022 10:10:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: rktman

Have the EV owner show up at the DMV every 12 months for odometer inspection with time stamped photos take, Your odometer has advanced 12000 miles. Then you get charged 12000 miles worth of road use taxes.

A problem automobile will be newer hybrids that you can also plug in at home. In this case the automobile manufacturer needs to have a port that a DMV flash drive can be inserted into for a readout


38 posted on 08/08/2022 10:44:26 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: rktman

The current leftist administration in maine wants to do this.


39 posted on 08/08/2022 11:01:09 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: rigelkentaurus

We already have to report odometer readings


40 posted on 08/08/2022 11:02:34 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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