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Conservatives Warn Alex Jones Show Trial Sets Precedent For Silencing Dissent Against Establishment
InfoWars ^ | Aug 4 | by Jamie White

Posted on 08/04/2022 10:53:11 AM PDT by RandFan

Conservatives and legal experts are warning that the ongoing show trial against Alex Jones is meant to set the precedent to shut down any opinions or commentary that counters establishment narratives.

Revolver News founder Darrin J. Beattie, constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes, lawyer Mike Cernovich, Human Events editor Jack Posobiec, and others all warned that the Texas defamation trial against Jones is the first legal salvo against free speech and dissenting views.

“Regime is thirsting for a precedent in Alex Jones case so no one can question official narratives on the internet again,” Beattie tweeted Wednesday.

“Alex Jones precedent means if you don’t accept the Vegas shooting explanation, then FBI agents can sue you because you’re calling them liars by implication,” Cernovich noted. “Conservative media doesn’t seem to care. They aren’t saying a word on the due process violations in Jones case.”

“The Alex Jones show trial is a preview of what the regime intends to do to anyone and everyone who doesn’t conform with The Narratives,” journalist Jordan Schachtel said.

“Alex Jones case is to use it as precedent to go after those who contest 2020 election & any other government disfavored ‘conspiracy minded’ folks, like everyone who challenged lockdowns, mandates, Covid origins, lies to get us into war,” Barnes pointed out after noting a juror asked the court if the lawsuit against Jones can “stop election deniers” in future cases.

In fact, the New York Times this week confirmed the alarming hypothesis, admitting that the establishment’s goal is to “send a signal to other conspiracy purveyors about the cost of online lies” using the legal system.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: absurdaraticle; bidenvoters; bovinepoop; caseislegal; infonuts; infotards; infowars; jonesisapos
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To: cgbg

“he is a perfect test case for the first amendment”

Except defamation is not protected by the first amendment, so that’s irrelevant here.


21 posted on 08/04/2022 11:16:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RandFan

I’m not following this but didn’t he bring this on himself?


22 posted on 08/04/2022 11:17:01 AM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any one President in your lifetime.)
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To: cgbg
Oh oh! You've gone from being a Putin Puffer to a Jones Joneser!

/sarc

23 posted on 08/04/2022 11:17:42 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Boogieman

“he is simply being sued by the family members of dead kids that he lied about on the air for profit”

You just made a claim about Mr. Jones.

Your claim may be correct or not.

So presumably he should sue you for defamation since your claim (if false) harmed his family.

That is what is happening here.


24 posted on 08/04/2022 11:18:03 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Boogieman

The problem is that defamation can be used as a weapon to silence dissent.

Imho that is what is happening here.


25 posted on 08/04/2022 11:19:03 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: nvcdl

And Amber Heard didn’t mention Johnny Depp in her op ed. But she still lost that defamation case. Saying someone’s name is not a requirement to be found to have defamed them.


26 posted on 08/04/2022 11:19:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cgbg

“The problem is that defamation can be used as a weapon to silence dissent.”

Then if you dissent, you should probably be careful not to defame a private citizen and leave yourself open to a lawsuit.


27 posted on 08/04/2022 11:20:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cgbg

“You just made a claim about Mr. Jones.”

Yes, and he is free to sue me for defamation if he thinks he can win the case. But he won’t, because he can’t.


28 posted on 08/04/2022 11:21:11 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: RandFan
Revolver News founder Darrin J. Beattie, constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes, lawyer Mike Cernovich, Human Events editor Jack Posobiec, and others all warned that the Texas defamation trial against Jones is the first legal salvo against free speech and dissenting views.

Dint know much about the other three, but have been following Robert Barjes off and on since 2020 and he is a stand up guy.

29 posted on 08/04/2022 11:23:13 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Boogieman

Read this thread carefully.

You do not have to specifically name an individual to defame them.

You may well have defamed someone during your life (even unintentionally) but you were such an unimportant and uninfluential person that they did not care.

However, defamation claims can be used as a weapon to silence political enemies—and the claimed pain and suffering of the alleged victims can always be used as an argument by the plaintiff.

Those with deep pockets have a big advantage in such legal proceedings.

Bottom line—rich oligarchs can use the legal process to silence anyone with proxy defamation claims.


30 posted on 08/04/2022 11:25:47 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Not only do you have to name them, don’t you need to also show proof of real damages?


31 posted on 08/04/2022 11:27:08 AM PDT by Houserino
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To: RandFan

Didn’t Alex Jones deny, under oath, the existence of a bunch of texts or emails that his legal team subsequently produced? You know, perjury?


32 posted on 08/04/2022 11:30:59 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Little Ray

The purpose of this exercise is to convince you and you and you and you (Freepers) that it is too risky to put out your own webcast or podcast because somebody out there may decide your claims are defamatory.

Everything else is noise.


33 posted on 08/04/2022 11:34:41 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

Okay. That makes sense.
It is amazing how the Left has co-opted Big Tech.


34 posted on 08/04/2022 11:35:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: cgbg

“However, defamation claims can be used as a weapon to silence political enemies—and the claimed pain and suffering of the alleged victims can always be used as an argument by the plaintiff.”

Then it would seem that people who want to engage in political debate should be, unlike Mr. Jones, especially careful not to engage in defamation, so that weapon can’t be used against them.


35 posted on 08/04/2022 11:39:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Little Ray

This is about the Deep State—they want the peons to sit down and shut up.


36 posted on 08/04/2022 11:40:04 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RandFan

What the Nazis did to the Jews, Democrats will do to us.


37 posted on 08/04/2022 11:40:25 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: Boogieman

You are assuming your adversaries are going to play fair.

They are not.

You will be silenced—if they want to silence you.

It is kinda like saying that folks should obey the speed limit in a town full of speed traps where the speed limit signs are hidden behind bushes.


38 posted on 08/04/2022 11:41:52 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RandFan

Gone are the days when one could have an opinion. No factual data, but just an opinion.

I can’t say for sure if it’s true, but in my humble opinion (fill in the blank).

Nowadays if your opinion offends someone you can be dragged into court.


39 posted on 08/04/2022 11:42:10 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I use the pronoun "it" so I don't offend the left.)
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To: Little Ray

His legal team “inadvertently” sent them to the plaintiffs attorney, then when informed by the plantiff’s attorneys what they had done, failed to claim attorney client privilege regarding those texts.


40 posted on 08/04/2022 11:45:01 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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