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California went big on rooftop solar. Now that's a problem for landfills
Yahoo ^ | July 14, 2022 | Rachel Kisela

Posted on 07/20/2022 8:40:35 PM PDT by george76

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To: george76

Next, a disposal fee like batteries and tires.

The only things renewable about renewables are their problems.

and cost
and unreliability
and pollutin
and cost to make
and environmental impact of mining the materials to make them
and child labor

Other than that and other things, they’re fine.


41 posted on 07/20/2022 11:22:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: george76
“The industry is supposed to be green,” Vanderhoof said. “But in reality, it’s all about the money.”

That's a no **** Sherlock if there ever was one. Hopefully the mezz is breaking.

42 posted on 07/20/2022 11:24:43 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: minnesota_bound
I spent $13k on a thermosyphonic solar hot water heater in San Diego. It was supposed to have a 20 year service life. The panels were black anodized copper with quartz glass over the top. The storage tank was fiberglass insulated. 150 gallons. It produced 100% of our hot water needs from March to September. September to March, the system ran in "preheat" mode with the warmed water feeding the gas hot water heater to boost the temperate.

The system broke down after 3 years. The hard water in San Diego mineralized and destroyed the storage tank. It no longer supplying usable hot water. The manufacturer and installation company were already out of business. 5 actual years of service when 20 was specified. I donated my panels to a repair company. Just getting them off the lawn was a win.

43 posted on 07/20/2022 11:28:52 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: george76

1:The panels are still producing 80% of their capacity at end of life.
2:The solar cells are encapsulated in glass so unless they’re damaged they shouldn’t be leaking anything.🤔


44 posted on 07/20/2022 11:38:03 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: george76

“Green” is the color of the money the purveyors of this sham make. People did things the way they did before the ‘green’ hysteria because that was in fact the most efficient, cost effective, and practical way by simple natural selection of ideas given all variables. How to skin an animal, how to grow wheat, how to raise a family, how to treat criminals. All this time earned wisdom is being tossed out the window by the psychotic ‘world leaders’ bent on some twisted vision.


45 posted on 07/20/2022 11:40:56 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Nifster

Solar for hot water is NOT the same as solar electric panels.🤔


46 posted on 07/20/2022 11:44:30 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: DoughtyOne

there were solar energy credits back in the 80s

the irs caught a company inflating prices with a kickback to the customer to max the credit


47 posted on 07/20/2022 11:44:48 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: george76

p


48 posted on 07/21/2022 12:38:12 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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Dems don’t get it. Unexpected consequences get them every time because they are too stupid to consider the long term consequences of their actions. The phrase “What if?” does not exist to them.


49 posted on 07/21/2022 12:55:18 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: george76

there is another solution that will be greener, cheaper, and function as power-on-demand instead of maybe-power-this-time


50 posted on 07/21/2022 12:57:08 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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The department expects ... that recycling will become even more crucial as cheaper panels with shorter life spans become more popular.”

That means the department considers recycling “crucial” right now.

As usual, though, recycling is cost prohibitive, and is not happening.

So much for “crucial”.

And so much for a government department not beclowning itself.


51 posted on 07/21/2022 1:27:55 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: joshua c

Thanks for the mention.

Didn’t realize that.


52 posted on 07/21/2022 1:29:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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Roofs are supposed to last about 30 years, but, in reality, they only last about 15. And they are far simpler than solar panels.


53 posted on 07/21/2022 1:40:33 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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I don’t own my own home, so I have to use stand alone items.

Panels can be a pain, but they are versatile

I can configure them differently depending on what I’m using them for
at the moment.


54 posted on 07/21/2022 2:04:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: george76

But I thought renewables were going to solve all our problems forever!


55 posted on 07/21/2022 2:07:30 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: DoughtyOne

There was solar-assisted hot water in a house I bought 25 years ago (long-since sold)


56 posted on 07/21/2022 2:13:23 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: DoughtyOne

Maybe because the 25 to 30 year estimate was overly optimistic...?


57 posted on 07/21/2022 2:37:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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Interesting article...

Strategic overview of management of future solar photovoltaic panel waste generation in the Indian context

Reads to me like it's a cluster.

58 posted on 07/21/2022 2:40:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: DoughtyOne

They’ve been around since the 1970’s - maybe before. Maybe not a big thing then but they were around. So the problem of disposing of the old ones will get worse.


59 posted on 07/21/2022 2:43:56 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: DoughtyOne

CA was actually pushing them at least as far back as the 90s - these were originally promoted for businesses, apartments, etc.


60 posted on 07/21/2022 2:47:39 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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