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1 posted on 07/08/2022 7:08:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Ukraine ping

Josh Rogin is a party-neutral foreign policy commentator who has mostly focused on China. He has ignored repeated invitations from left-wing pundits to step on Trump. His take is that Biden is deliberately going slow on military supplies to Ukraine, much of which involves things that don’t materially improve Ukraine’s military position. Something like $7b in aid, civilian and military, has been sent so far, out of $40b appropriated.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-is-sending-an-additional-400-million-in-military-aid-to-ukraine/ar-AAZmFD7


2 posted on 07/08/2022 7:09:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Profitable.


5 posted on 07/08/2022 7:17:29 PM PDT by blackdog (Cooler King Joe, killing a winning nation every day. )
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That’s what I think too.

Moscow Joe is slow walking the aid. Congress appropriated $40 billion. But Joe is sending $400 million a week in weapons and making a big deal out of it each time.

Biden is earning Hunter’s payouts from Moscow and Burisma while playing mining US Aide for headlines and playing a cruel game with Ukraine.

We need to be in this war to win, not out of it. And not dragging it out.


8 posted on 07/08/2022 7:33:35 PM PDT by DannyTN
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This is still Obama’s Ukraine strategy


9 posted on 07/08/2022 7:37:48 PM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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Risch said this is caused by a misguided concern that if Putin starts to lose badly, he might escalate further.

Meaning, NATO bases might get nuked unless we limit this to a friendly little war. /s

11 posted on 07/08/2022 7:49:32 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Risch said this is caused by a misguided concern that if Putin starts to lose badly, he might escalate further

I don't know who this Risch guy is - but he probably shouldn't soot for Mensa any time soon.

12 posted on 07/08/2022 7:49:43 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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There is no stalemate. Ukraine is losing 1000 troops by ITS OWN ADMISSION. Ukraine is getting its ass kicked.

Only sociopaths want to see the Ukrainians fight to the last man and lose every single inch of their country. But, that will happen unless Ukraine surrenders.

The neocon sickos here couldn't care less about the Ukrainians. This all about futile, feckless attempt to harm Russia that is failing miserably.

The Russians already have gained land that comprises 70-80% of Ukraine's former GDP. That land will remain controlled by Russia and their allies in the DPR and LPR.

13 posted on 07/08/2022 7:55:49 PM PDT by Kazan
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Biden’s Ukraine strategy risks prolonging a violent stalemate”

That is the goal.


14 posted on 07/08/2022 7:56:49 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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The delays are driven by strident opposition in the Pentagon.

Not the White House. They are all of one mind.


17 posted on 07/08/2022 8:19:17 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The other side of the story...

Russian propaganda attempts to low motivation of Ukraine’s partners to transfer weapons - Leshchenko
https://youtu.be/osjBfuy2C28

[familyop edit: Russian propaganda attempts to lower motivation of Ukraine’s partners to transfer weapons - Leshchenko. The video presents evidence against Russian propaganda on the matter.]


26 posted on 07/08/2022 10:40:28 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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I’ve seen a few videos showing HIMARS units and other new western equipment doing some real damage to Russian units, but the time is not right for more intensity. Patience.


27 posted on 07/08/2022 10:44:47 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Ukrainians aren’t going to budge on the issue, so get busy, Democrats. Democrats don’t know much about high intensity conflicts, so they’d better simply follow what they can see happening now.

We won’t give up our land, the entire sovereign territory of Ukraine will be Ukrainian – Zelenskyy
https://youtu.be/BHCZhFpyZ_E

The greater the defense aid to Ukraine is now, the sooner the war will end – Zelenskyy
https://youtu.be/PsSEiTvD-7Q

And if Democrats don’t grease the skids for materiel, they’re going to see many more stories like this in the face of their effeminate inaction.

School for visually impaired children in Kharkiv suffered Russian bombardment
https://youtu.be/m1BW333Kz5o


28 posted on 07/08/2022 11:04:46 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Collapse of Russia is ‘very likely’ after a full-scale invasion of Ukraine
https://youtu.be/nyTpUQ7qdFc


30 posted on 07/08/2022 11:08:35 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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"Biden’s Ukraine strategy risks prolonging a violent stalemate......."

Somebody's idea of a joke, right?

Would you call the Little Bighorn a "stalemate"??

Would you call Cannae a "stalemate"??

Would you call Ye-hu-Ling a "stalemate"??

Would you call Austerlitz a "stalemate"??

Would you call the Mariannas Turkey- Shoot a "stalemate"??

Would you call Mohi a "stalemate"??

Would you call Kursk a "stalemate"??

Would you call Marathon a "stalemate"??

Would you call Waterloo a "stalemate"??

Would you call....

Try living in the real world; the Ukronazis are no where close to a stalemate, they are getting their butts handed to them on a platter.

32 posted on 07/09/2022 3:06:41 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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In real life, the real world, Russians are a week or two tops from totally rolling up the Donbass. After that there will be nothing but cow pastures between them and the Dnieper.

Look for Ukraine to surrender in about a month and a half and nato to be forced to disband a week or two after that.

42 posted on 07/30/2022 7:03:35 PM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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