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To: laplata

I think the time has passed for any hope for the kind of settlement pundits are suggesting.

When Putin switched gears which originally called for achieving the de-nazi; de-militarization; gaining autonomy for Donbass and a neutrality agreement in Ukraine AND THEN LEAVING UKRAINE and became convinced that neither Zelensky nor NATO would ever honor any agreement and furthermore that NATO was determined to prolong the war in order to take down Russia and drive Putin from office he realized that he would need to remain in Ukraine “forever” (as they put it) and defeat NATO.

So now we await finding out how much of Ukraine will be annexed and what arrangements will be made about the remaining Western stump state of Ukraine.


7 posted on 07/03/2022 9:38:28 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Good post.

This is the worst time to have most inept leadership in the US and NATO, but that’s what we have. They’re a bunch of buffoons at the beck and call of the Globalists.

We’ll be fortunate if there isn’t some type of nuclear exchange, from tactical nukes to ICBM’s.


10 posted on 07/03/2022 9:46:53 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Cathi

Russia has MATERIALLY violated over four international agreements with Ukraine, including the UN Charter, Budapest Memorandum, final settlement of the Soviet Union, anf Minsk.

With insignificant provocation.

It did those things in 2013, before Euromaidan, it did them again in 2014 by annexing Crimea, and its action in February was despite two years of DPR ombudsman reporting that the armistices were holding up albeit with 70 or so civilian casualties... Per year.

Not good enough, said Putin, even though half the casualties were on the Uke side and a third were due to things like leftover mines... So not directly linked to ongoing hostilities.

So what’s the point of yet another international agreement when Russia will just break the terms on the flimsiest of excuses?

Minsk 3 would be a waste of time. Ukraine would only have to fart in Russia’s general direction and Russia would break it.

We were obliged to do something when Russia broke all the agreements signed between the USSR collapse and accession of former SSRs to the UN. We didn’t intervene when we should’ve.

This mess is entirely the result of “don’t poke the bear” and Russia counting on it.


25 posted on 07/04/2022 12:32:23 AM PDT by MalPearce
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