Posted on 06/11/2022 9:42:40 AM PDT by JonPreston
“The east in the Ukraine is lost”.
Isn’t that as though the US lost Alaska should Putin threaten Nuclear War?
I wouldn’t miss Alaska if Peace is the alternative.
The propaganda barrage seemed to start slowing down after Kissinger weighed in at WEF. Even the far left media seem to be admitting they lied. WaPo via Stars and Stripes in linked article admit the Ukes are losing.
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-06-10/ukraine-ammunition-battlefield-prospects-6303189.html
At least we’d get rid of Murkowski.
All Things Ukraine are slowing down. The few remaining Uke flag wavers are reduced to posting the scraps from the Daily Mail.
Guess we’ll have to throw a dog BBQ for them when Z finally signs a ceasefire deal.
Ukrainians have been impressing young men into the army, and there are reports of them executing men of military age that tried to flee the country. In Mariupol there were many reports of solders that tried to surrender being shot before they could leave the lines.
Private Slovak was a tea party compared to some of the atrocities that the Ukrainians have been charged with.
I am no Putinbot. I’ve posted many times here about my DIA friend’s description that Putin is evil and insane. But right now the Russians are going old school and no amount of cool whizz bang Western weapons when the Ukies are being inundated with MLRS and with 152mm by the thousands. When Putin was trying his mobile blitz the West’s weapons ate him alive. But how do you stop 400 152s from blasting you to hell.
You sound like an insider.
State, or DOD?
Really, really stupid to leave troops under enemy artillery coverage without significant protection. A static defense conducted near enemy territory and supply lines is retarded!
In the city they need to get in the basements then dig another 30’ down and connect the buildings via tunnels.
Otherwise, they need to withdraw and resume maneuver operations.
Most of them are slinking away with tails between their legs.
We aren’t the Ukraine, you’re comparison is moot.
“Putin has more in common with Bush than he does with Trump.”
Please point out which country Bush or Trump invaded in which Coalition forces were defeated in the field and forced to retreat.
Waiting.....
You can say AFGN but that is more like Vietnam -falling after US forces left.
We’re still in Iraq btw at three+ bases, at the request of the Iraqi government. The US defeated Saddam, Iran (Mahdi), AIQ and ISIS. But keep watching MSM and voting D.
Who wants to be the last one to die for Hunter Biden’s crack and whore habit?
Mourn what, exactly? It was all so entirely predictable.
Indeed, this is what the woke globalist neocon empire-builders in Washington DC wanted. They all knew the history and politics of Ukraine and Russia, but nonetheless found it an excellent opportunity to engage in a costless (for them) proxy-war against Russia, and line their pockets at the same time.
Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan.
We get the propaganda from both sides and it’s hard to know who or what to believe.
200 a day is bad but worse is the 500 a day wounded—needing medical care. That is a tremendous loss and expensive to rehabilitate the wounded and shattered men. Shell shock from Bombardment can wreck anyone for the rest of their lives. The Propaganda told us the Ukrainians were supermen—winning every fight. But no one can stand the constant WW I style bombardment. This also indicates that they Ukraine doesn’t control the skies—or the artillery would be taken out. Russians like Cannons, they can fire them all day and night. As long as they can bring in shells—they win. Ukraine better do one of two things: A) Stage an event to bring in NATO Forces. or B) Make a deal with Putin before they lose Odessa.
I’m Team America.
Fortress America gives weapons to the Little Guy (even if he is a tool of Soros) so other Little Guys buy our cool shit.
This is the America of our parent’s youth, our youth, and this will be the America of our kids and their kids.
Because “F-yeah!”
Biden Is a **** up tool that does what people pay him to do. He has always been a ****-up tool that does what people pay him to do. As long as he only sends guns and Money, everything will work out fine, you watch.
Putin got a “Bad case of the Realities” in Ukraine. People concerned about our weapons leading to the “killing of more Ukrainians” didn’t say anything when 100X more weapons were killing 100X more Iraqi’s, so they need look of Cindy Sheehan and buy her a nice lunch.
Ukrainians are begging for our weapons, so let them have them. They stopped all major Russian advances, and the longer they hold out, the weker Russia gets and the more of a lesson China learns. Next it will be the Croations, Bosnians, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, etc. etc. We are their last, best hope.
Fortress America.
Neither will be necessary.
The path to Odesa requires taking Mikolaiv and the odds Russia loses Kherson are currently higher than them ever taking Mikolaiv.
Kharkiv is less than 30 miles from the Russian Border and less than a 1 hour drive From the huge Russian Supply hub in Belgrod, yet Russian Couldn't take Kharkiv in 3 months of trying.
Odesa is "3 bridges too far" and not in any danger of falling to Russia.
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