Out-of-Touch Globalists Seek NATO Expansion

Townhall.com ^ | May 25, 2022 | John and Andy Schlafly

[katie didit]

I believe they already have stolen it.

I knew we were in serious trouble but I didn’t understand, until recently, the depths they would go to in order to destroy us.

[Lurkinanloomin]

I think you’re right, but hold out hope for a miracle.

[Poison Pill]

NATO’s reason for being evaporated in the early 1990’s. It should have been disbanded.

It might have been possible if Russia had had the foresight to give up their nukes in the early nineties. They didn't, so here we are.

[katie didit]

Yes, it’s gonna take one.

Things are moving so fast we should see very soon.

[adorno]

NATO’s reason for being evaporated in the early 1990’s.

Do you think that Russia and China and other hostile nations would not have taken advantage of the less capable nations?

No doubt that there would have been many major confrontations in Europe and in Asia and in Africa and in the middle-east and in South America.

But, since we didn't have any major conflict or wars, perhaps there was never a need for NATO or any other defensive pact. Which came first? Wars/conflicts, or deterrent measures? Which causes the other?

[unlearner]

Must be nice. Globetrotting. Prancing around in Tom Ford and Channel. Spending money like it’s going out of style. Deciding the fate of humanity without bothering to consult humanity.

If billions of dollars of wealth are syphoned off from the poor and middle class... if the food supply is disrupted... if the rich get richer from printing money and promoting war... these are just numbers. Merely statistics. The world can eat crickets while we dine on Kobe beef. The future is bright.

If I were Putin, I’d launch whatever number of nuclear warheads it took to erase this group from the face of the earth. But that’s just me.

[reformedliberal]

... thinking backwards...
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When all parties to a defense pact combine forces against a single, supposedly poorer, less-equipped, & less trained, opponent, the former ceases to be a defense alliance and becomes an offensive force. Striking back at bullies is often the only successful defense.

There are a glaring similarities in globo tactics in both C19 & Russia:

They never consider that stressed organisms adapt and evolve, nor that entire ecosystems are then destabilized in unforeseeable ways.

Come to think of it, the same mistakes are apparent in the televised back-patting fest being held in Davos.

Some sort of narcissism-induced selective blindness?

[reformedliberal]

NATO will fill that role.
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No need for future tense.

[adorno]

When all parties to a defense pact combine forces against a single, supposedly poorer, less-equipped, & less trained, opponent

That's a lot of hogwash (I was going to say B.S. but, hogwash sounds less hostile).

When a poorer and less-equipped and less trained nation becomes hostile and invades a neighboring nation, or when it becomes a nation what wants to eliminate certain peoples from its population (like Hitler and like Muslims do with Christians), and when that nation uses banned weapons (like banned chemicals or biological weapons), then, that country has to be stopped. Doesn't matter the size of the country; what matters is the size of its aggression or the size of its unspeakable acts.

So, is Israel a country that deserves protections against its hostile neighbors, or should Israel just forget everything and surrender to the aggressor(s)? (Just an example, mind you).

[reformedliberal]

You know the precise point I was making. This history is available everywhere.

Slide away, but I think I’ll skip this particular dance, thanx.

[adorno]

You know the precise point I was making. This history is available everywhere.

The history is out there, but, 'certain' people want to interpret that history their own way.

But, the real goings on are many times different from what people hear or what they perceive. Nothing out there more practical than reality.

[reformedliberal]

The region is known as The Bloodlands for centuries of reasons.
Everything worked well enough until the Ukrainian leadership refused to implement CIA/NATO plans.

CIA/NATO provoked the Maidan w/usual tactics used forever, everywhere they wanted to steal land/resources/people, or had set up ratlines for profit.

Same kept provoking Russia.

Results from 2014 well-known, internationally documented, and not even subject to *interpretation*.

Russia presented situation in UN. UN not impartial, just as they are never impartial as concerns the USA, regardless of Security Council status.

Referendum over Eastern territories held and ratified.

Ukraine responded militarily & asymmetrically, but only because of Western material/informational warfare support.

Russia warned it would respond protectively.

Entire West tried to come together over Russia’s response and met Russia’s preparations and did not prevail, propaganda on global state media not withstanding. EU is fracturing over this issue because food & energy are existential.

We are all living through those results.

Mariupol port is up and running cleared of debris & mines, both emplaced by Ukraine. Exports/imports flowing.

Russia beginning to hold tribunals for well-documented Ukrainian war crimes committed w/Western assistance.
Note that historically, winners do this, not vanquished.

Western leaders, including unelected Grand Old Men of the NWO, are all strongly making the case for negotiated peace settlement. Only Zelensky is being adamant, demanding more funds while his troops surrender and defect. He is trying to punch above his weight and forgets his own origins. He is likely to soon be brought to heel. He is a puppy trying to be a wolf.

Biden refuses to accept repayment of bonds, declares Russia in default/State media uses term *bankrupt* while Russian economy/currency outperforms the world, including USA. World braced for Western FF, but so far, all they can manage is to use MKUltra’d kids within the US. Global situation is precarious going forward.

Putin is not a saint, anymore than Trump was. Or Bolsonaro, for that matter. It takes tough men to fight this current evil against the world.

There are just as many Ukrainians brainwashed by openly state-controlled media and partisanship as there are Americans. This is unfortunate, because sheep can only be herded &/or slaughtered, they do not prevail.

Anyone with a single eye and a single working synapse sees the reality. Refusal to admit reality does not change it.

I have no interest in parsing reality. It is what it is. Do not continue to beat the poor horse. It is dead.

Unfortunately, the propaganda is so strong, that another horse will be introduced soon, while the vanquished proclaim the original horse has risen from the dead.

It is disgusting, tragic, predictable and stupid and world has had enough.

So have I, with zero interest in continuing this fruitless discussion.

Find another current thing.

[adorno]

Let me get this straight...

Zelensky bad. Putin not so bad.

Ukrainians have no right to their land. Putin has a legitimate claim to Ukraine or parts of it.

The U.S. and NATO countries had no right to intervene, and so, Russia is within its right to defend itself.

Trump no saint, and neither is Putin, putting them on the same level of good or evil or none of those.

History is out there, but, history is only what one want’s to make of it. But, history teaches lessons and the lessons one takes away is dependent on which lessons you prefer or which interpretation you prefer.

It’s all so confusing, but, I’m glad YOU brought some sense into it all. NOT!!!

Meanwhile, the Ukrainians have a right to fight to expel Russians from Ukrainian territory, and Russia had no right to invade, no matte how much they want to rationalize and/or justify their dastardly acts.

[reformedliberal]

Yeah, well:

Ukraine was always a cats paw. Their protectors did not win the war they provoked.

Deal.

[adorno]

Deal.

No deal.

[reformedliberal]

You misunderstand:

I mean: IT’S OVER, DEAL WITH IT.

[adorno]

You misunderstand:

You misunderstand... I mean: IT’S OVER, DEAL WITH IT.

There is nothing to deal with. What you presented is a bum deal. It's nonsense. NO DEAL! Nothing is over until it's over.

[reformedliberal]

IT IS OVER.

Just watch. It will be instructive.

[adorno]

IT IS OVER.

It will be over when your buddy, Biden, takes away any support and funding from Ukraine. Meanwhile, congress voted to keep funding going, and Russia will not be able to hold on to what they've gained illegally with the help of people like you.

Just watch.

I'm watching, and whatdoyaknow?... the war is still on and Russia is still NOT WINNING. Perhaps you're watching a different war in a different planet?

It will be instructive.

It will be instructive, but, you and Biden and your KGB buddies, still won't be learning anything.

[reformedliberal]

You support Ukeaine.

I point out Ukraine has lost.

Biden supports Ukraine.

And you are trying to tie me to the supporters of the party I say has lost?

OOO Kay.