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Do We Really Want to Take Out Vladimir Putin?
American Thinker.com ^ | May 21, 2022 | Bert Peterson

Posted on 05/21/2022 2:02:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

For undying enmity toward Mother Russia, Ukrainians have good cause. It can be traced to a single Ukrainian word -- “Holodomor” (derived from “holod, meaning hunger, and “mor,” meaning extermination). The word refers to a single event, the famine of 1932-3. This “famine,” however,” did not come from an act of nature, but from government policies -- the government at that time being not exactly Russia, but rather the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic, which was close to the same thing.

In keeping their socialist, “equitable,” agenda, the Soviets, under Joseph Stalin, took over private farms and formed collectives. The Soviets set quotas for crop production for them, reserving a portion for the government. On this endeavor, Patrick J. Kiger of History writes:

Collectivization in Ukraine didn’t go very well... it became apparent that Ukraine’s grain harvest was going to miss Soviet planners’ target by 60 percent. There still might have been enough food for Ukrainian peasants to get by, but, as [Anne] Applebaum writes, Stalin then ordered what little they had be confiscated as punishment for not meeting quotas.

At least 3.9 million, or about 13 percent of Ukrainians, starved to death. At the same time, the Soviets exported more than a million tons of grain to the West.

Of course, under the Soviets, at least 1.1 million Russian farmers starved also, but their survivors have no nationality to blame -- only an evil, delusional ideology. Ukrainians have more -- the ideology, and the nation that brought it to them. For this, and for more, Ukrainians have good cause for their enmity.

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1 posted on 05/21/2022 2:02:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yeah. I don’t think any of us would want to be part of Russia if we were Ukrainian.

This was settled 30 years ago.

Russia/Putin is in the wrong.


2 posted on 05/21/2022 2:05:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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No.

Putin is merely the one that stirred the pot. There are bigger blowfish to fry.


3 posted on 05/21/2022 2:09:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kaslin

By the looks of it Satan will call him home soon enough.


4 posted on 05/21/2022 2:15:09 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Kaslin

Offing Putin may not be necessary, if reports on his declining health are true. Looks more like cancer will do the necessary work of removing that beast from the face of the earth.


5 posted on 05/21/2022 2:22:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Кчерту Путина, Kчерту Россию)
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To: Reaganez

I read recently that he has cancer.


6 posted on 05/21/2022 2:24:32 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: ScottinVA

They are most likely true, because he has changed. He used to quite reasonable.


7 posted on 05/21/2022 2:26:58 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Imagine the guy the globalists will replace him with. He may be a lot of things, but has not relinquished control to them.
When they obtain control over Russian resources, God help us all.
If Russia and China the last holdouts.. maybe China has defacto surrendered already. The NBA billions are the strangest thing I read this week… not sure about that puzzle piece. I am sure, it’s Americans last though.
Hey maybe Putin’s replacement is a reality show puppet who can entertain. We need less substantive and more compliant leaders… they might as well be fun to watch.
Jeff Dunham always comes to mind… president, czar, prime minister, or heck let’s just do queens n kings again..on a stick.


8 posted on 05/21/2022 2:48:54 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: ScottinVA

“Offing Putin may not be necessary”

Well thank heaven for small favors.

Was it you to whom this now needless mission was assigned?


9 posted on 05/21/2022 2:51:29 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Kaslin

“He used to quite reasonable”

Old Soviet, KGB. Reasonable? I would use the term measured, with an undercurrent of ruthlessness.


10 posted on 05/21/2022 3:10:31 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: momincombatboots

Russia appears to be the last holdout for “re-Sovietization”. (Belarus aside).

Replacement of Putin could put Russia on the same pathway as more “liberal” former Soviet republics.

In the meantime, weakening Putin’s military inventory can’t hurt.

Modernizing NATO’s inventory—with US armaments—likewise can’t hurt.


11 posted on 05/21/2022 3:25:56 AM PDT by Does so (https//youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: Does so
With Ukraine under our belts we can push on and start dismantline the Russian Federation bit by bit and turning it over the the globalists. Have you all gone mad?

And while we are focused on the consequences that WE crossed Putin's red line, what about the real threat - China. We are in the process of putting ourselves in a place where we are so weak that China can shut us down and take us out of circulation for the next 100 years and you fools are provoked by the global imperialists constantly reminding you that that bad Putin....

12 posted on 05/21/2022 3:49:27 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: momincombatboots

You seem to be the only sane person on this thread.


13 posted on 05/21/2022 3:49:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin

Who is “we?” No, I want his own Russians to take out the Putin trash, or the Grim Reaper.


14 posted on 05/21/2022 4:30:05 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Kaslin

We want to create the situation where he crawls back under his rock, a rock he can’t lift.


15 posted on 05/21/2022 4:35:21 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: momincombatboots

Yes, the sad thing is the problem isn’t Putin. It is Russian culture.

For a thousand years the Russian people have been brutalized by Czars and dictators. They do not have any other way to function. Remove the brutal yoke and Russian society collapses.


16 posted on 05/21/2022 4:37:43 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Clutch Martin

I agree! When he was weak he tried to please America and pretend to be someone who can be a friend.

When he had eliminated his internal opposition, felt safe at home and got high on the high oil prices he showed his true self.

In 2008 he approached China urging them to take advantage of the economic crises to destroy the US economy.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-asked-china-to-dump-fannie-bonds-in-bid-to-collapse-the-us-financial-system-2010-1

>Some scary details have emerged from Hank Paulson’s memoirs.

>Allegedly, it appears Russia may have tried to conspire with China in a bid to collapse the U.S. financial system. They were hoping to sell Fannie and Freddie bonds during a time when the U.S. economy was on the ropes.


17 posted on 05/21/2022 4:42:23 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Renfrew

The whole Russian culture is crap, but Putin is at the mean end of Russian politics.

Even if his replacement would have the exact same idiotic ideas he would have a less entrenched position to force them on others and the less idiotic Russian forces would gain power.


18 posted on 05/21/2022 4:45:31 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Kaslin

He’s already done....

Just like the US, but just doesn’t know it yet.


19 posted on 05/21/2022 5:06:31 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Kaslin

Just judging by what others in the Russian government have been saying, I wouldn’t be too optimistic if I were Soros or a Neocon and managed to drive Putin from power. The others are FAR LESS restrained than Putin.


20 posted on 05/21/2022 5:07:17 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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