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Fight erupts over extraordinary state rules for gun purchases Procedure called 'nonsensical hoops'
wnd.com ^ | 5/8/2022 1313 hrs edt | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/09/2022 7:37:27 AM PDT by rktman

The Second Amendment Foundation is joining the arguments in court against the extraordinary process the state of Hawaii requires people to go through if they want to purchase a gun.

The organization announced it has filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of consumers who, in Yakutake v. Hawaii, have challenged a couple of "cumbersome" state laws.

"This is a case," explains the brief, "where a state-actor purports to comply with the Constitution’s text and Supreme Court case law, while intentionally undermining the fundamental right at issue. In fact, Hawaii is only engaged in a kind of malicious compliance."

The foundation explained that in order for someone to purchase a gun in Hawaii, he or she "must first go to the police station to apply for a purchase permit. Then the applicant must wait 14 days for a background check. Next, the person must go back to the seller, show the permit—which is only good for ten days for a handgun and one year for a long gun—complete the transaction and within five days bring the firearm back to the police station for inspection."

The filing explains, "Hawaii has erected nonsensical hoops for gun-buyers to jump through to exercise a fundamental right. The passive-aggressive regulations at issue in this case are mirrored by remarkably similar barriers to voting that were struck down by the Supreme Court more than 50 years ago."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; hi
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BOR not in effect in HI? SCOTUS? Meh! Who do they think they are? D.C.?
1 posted on 05/09/2022 7:37:27 AM PDT by rktman
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“The passive-aggressive regulations at issue in this case are mirrored by remarkably similar barriers to voting that were struck down by the Supreme Court more than 50 years ago.”

An excellent legal argument.

L


2 posted on 05/09/2022 7:38:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: rktman

They want people to bring a firearm to the police station?


3 posted on 05/09/2022 7:40:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: rktman

Me thinks that the definition of infringement needs to be relearned by the Democrat party.


4 posted on 05/09/2022 7:44:57 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: rktman

And the basic question, why does the state not want their people to have guns.

The real reason............................


5 posted on 05/09/2022 7:45:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Lurker

It’s interesting. The right to vote is implied but not actually stated in the Constitution. Later amendments said it could not be restricted because of race or former slave hood, sex, age (if over 18) and failure to pay a poll tax. Whereas the right to keep and bear arms is plainly stated in the 2nd Amendment. Yet it is the right to keep arms that is the red-headed step child of guaranteed rights.


6 posted on 05/09/2022 7:46:26 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: rktman

Hawaii has never been America, or American.


7 posted on 05/09/2022 7:48:55 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Well, I lived there prior to it becoming a state so....... I was known as a haoli(sp) punk by local punks. LOL! 4th, 5th and most of the 6th grade there.


8 posted on 05/09/2022 7:53:13 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Calling a white person a haoli is equivelant to calling a black person the “n” word, or a hispanic a s*ic”.

There is no difference.


9 posted on 05/09/2022 7:55:36 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: rktman
As I recall, downstate NY has very similar laws for pistols. At least, it did 9 years ago. (That was one of the many reason I left & never looked back.)

I also recall having to go all the way to Riverhead (about an hour's drive) to get the damn purchase document & then back again to register it after the purchase. They didn't have evening or weekend hours, so if you didn't have flexible work hours, you were forced to take 2 days off in order to complete the stupid farce.

Oh, how I hated that place. (I do miss the restaurants though.)

10 posted on 05/09/2022 7:58:09 AM PDT by NoLongerTrappedInNY
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Well, I lived there prior to it becoming a state so...

Well then, you know exactly what I mean, however any normal person could figure it out if they kept their eyes open while living there, before or after statehood.

11 posted on 05/09/2022 7:59:34 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Lucky for me I developed a thick hide early in life then. LOL! Talked to a young lady years later, well decades actually, who grew up on the windward side of Oahu and she took abuse for being a haoli “b” word when she was a kid/teenager there. Some things never change.


12 posted on 05/09/2022 7:59:55 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

As a superior white, being called a haoli is recognition of that superiority


13 posted on 05/09/2022 8:00:12 AM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yup, even as a kid, I sensed it.


14 posted on 05/09/2022 8:01:24 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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"Cumbersome" laws? Here in Massachusetts politicians and judges don't bother with such words. They're right up front about their complete contempt for the 2nd Amendment. A few years ago SCOTUS struck down one of their laws...by a 9-0 vote.

Hopefully Hawaii gets the same treatment.

15 posted on 05/09/2022 8:13:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

LOL. I remember some Asians hissing at me something which sounded like “Lo Buck Choi”. I am sure it was some type of racial epithet.


16 posted on 05/09/2022 8:23:46 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

This is an interesting conversation. My first sea duty tour was at Barbers Point in the early-mid-70’s. Mrs. Afterguard and I had been married about a year. We lived in Wahiawa, up in the hills, and found the locals without exception open, helpful, and friendly. Mrs. Afterguard worked on the economy there. Even while I was away on multiple 6 month deployments I never worried about her because of the friends we had made. We absolutely loved Hawaii and traveled several times to both Kawaii and Maui and found the locals the same kind people wherever we went. We were really disappointed when the only shore duty I could get was at Moffett Field in CA. Tried several times to get re-located there but never happened.

We found that the main reason “haolis” felt excluded is because of their own attitude about being there. I can’t tell you how many people kept complaining about being stuck “On the Rock”. For the most part these were the folks that felt they were discriminated against by the locals. They just never tried to fit in.

As an odd aside to this story, there was one Petty Officer in the squadron that was a “native Hawaiian”, big guy that would boast of his Samoan ancestry. He called everybody haolis, but you never called him a moke unless you were looking for a beatdown. Ended up in trouble in town and never saw him after that.


17 posted on 05/09/2022 8:26:02 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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To: rktman

My mother spent a few years in Hawaii back in the late 1950s.
She was there as a 12-15-year-old. She said lots of native Hawaiian children treated them like dirt. “Haole”[howly] was what they were called on daily basis.


18 posted on 05/09/2022 8:29:37 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Yup. Even more scary is that my older sis went to obxxx’s alma mater. Before he went though.


19 posted on 05/09/2022 8:34:43 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Massachusetts is impossible unless you are famous or somehow connected. Some cities are impossible no matter who you are.


20 posted on 05/09/2022 8:35:22 AM PDT by ladyjane
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