Posted on 03/25/2022 6:23:51 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
You’ve outdone yourself for bs propaganda.
The Zelenski sack cuppers will be your fan for life.
Logos mean squat.
Did the oligarch also put up the statues and posters of Stepan Bandera?
Everyone has their narrative.
ADL: Why is Putin Calling the Ukrainian Government a Bunch of Nazis?
"“There are neo-Nazis in Ukraine, just as there are in the U.S., and in Russia for that matter. But they are a very marginal group with no political influence and who don’t attack Jews or Jewish institutions in Ukraine. Putin’s propaganda is so far from the truth that it doesn’t survive the first contact with even a little knowledge.”
There is considerable carnage going on right now in Ukraine, that much is true, the mere scale of it is mindboggling and distressing.
Q: Do you support the Russian invasion ordered by Pres. Vladimir Putin of these areas of Ukraine, i.e outside Donbass and Crimea already taken? Or if not supporting, do you condemn it? (for your reference, I strongly condemn it). ??
from online bio -
Seth Hettena
Author, journalist living in San Diego. Former correspondent for The Associated Press. Author of Trump/Russia: A Definitive History and Feasting on the Spoils. My work has been featured in The New Yorker, Rolling Stone, The New York Times, The American Lawyer, Columbia Journalism Review, newspapers, and other places...
from wikipedia:
“Pavel (Pavlo) Fuks was born in 1971 in Kharkiv, Ukraine. He is Jewish.”
He probably learned this trick from the ADL.
Given your Trump-hating history, you’re one to talk. ;-)
...the same oligarch who funded a scheme to paint slogans of Communist organizations such as Black Lives MatterTM on streets of cities and then fund a scheme to loot and commit arson in them?
...the same oligarch who funded a scheme to spray paint Antifa slogans such as ACAB ("All Cops Are Bastards") in cities before attacking police and burning buildings?
Russia, Russia, Russia
[You have a most interesting posting history on this topic. And the choice of your screen name. You are welcome to read about me. I have been on here since about 1998, so that is a long time. At any rate, may I ask you a question?
There is considerable carnage going on right now in Ukraine, that much is true, the mere scale of it is mindboggling and distressing.
Q: Do you support the Russian invasion ordered by Pres. Vladimir Putin of these areas of Ukraine, i.e outside Donbass and Crimea already taken? Or if not supporting, do you condemn it? (for your reference, I strongly condemn it). ?? ]
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Re your views on Biden’s predecessor, if you believed media depictions of Trump, you’d have to be morally bent to not despise or outright hate him. The reality, however, is more complex in some ways, and the complete opposite of reality in others.
In foreign policy, as in other realms, the average person’s view of Trump’s positions comes from distorted media sound bites. In public, Trump was pretty pleasant to the leaders of America’s enemies. But that’s in public. In private, he kicked them bloody. Trump tightened the leash so hard on Kim, famines ensued. He was seizing ships at periodic intervals. Biden loosened those sanctions by ending that program. And lo - flush with cash, Kim started testing new missiles again.
Trump ramped up sanctions on Russia. He exited worthless missile and Open Skies treaties that Putin did not live up to, that Biden wants to revive. He struck Russian ground troops for the first time in a century*, killing 200 of them, something even Trump-hating Newsweek acknowledges.
https://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073
Trump’s relationship with the leaders of America’s enemies is a lot like domestic abuse - pleasant in public appearances together and serious beatdowns in private. That is why Kim and Putin respected Trump - his pimp hand kept them docile.
* The last time a president ordered US troops into action against Russian grunts was just after the Bolshevik Revolution. Woodrow Wilson sent the Polar Bears to help the Whites against the Reds.
So you’re trying to claim that the Azov Batallion aren’t Nazis? Or are you trying to say they aren’t fighting with Ukraine?
They are both and worse. Either you’re ignorant of these facts or you’re on the wrong side and want to hide that as it’s inconvenient to the narrative. You know, the narrative you’re trying to shill to us.
Assuming the best, and that you’re simply ignorant, here is some reading for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
Yes, correct. It might not have been clear but I was trying to cc you on that, and my question was for the other poster. LoL Take care.
Actually, it is more of an “authoritarian, anti-Constitution, white nationalist populist-hating” record but I digress.
Thank you for the post.
‘Sources say” What has happened to real journalism? I swear I hope yo never hear “sources say” ever again. Not wasting my time reading that crap.
However, there are huge anti-jewish actions by Russia that stretch from Imperial Russia to the Soviet Union that the people of Ukraine were brain washed by. So, I would say that the attempts to “Nazify” parts of Ukraine to the media were trying to tap into a Moscow view created in Moscow that is basically antisemitic.
“.......Created by imperial decree, the Jewish Pale of Settlement was that part of the Russian Empire within which Russia's Jewish population was required to live and work for more than 130 years between the late 18th and early 20th century. Intended initially to forestall commerce between Jews and the general population of Russia, the restrictions imposed by the Pale fostered the development of a distinctive religious and ethnic culture in an area covering roughly 386,000 square miles (1 million square kilometers) between the Baltic and Black seas........”
The story isn’t an issue, as a dozen Russian .eo-NAZI organizations have been involved in efforts to destabilize Ukraine over the years, including in both Kiev and the Donbass. As well, this is not untypical at all, and really known SOP.
What’s interesting is the left wing rags occasionally being chosen to introduce critical information.
When they do this, many on the right simply won’t accept the info. New York Slimes, Washington Compost, GallStone, etc... are actually often part of part of and us scheme.
This story is anecdotally correct!
*Not sure the timing is the same, but two friends of mine in the Desna district of Kiev, had seen a rash of nazi graffiti, and then city workers scrubbing “lightning bolts” and swastikas in different public transit stops over the past 4-5 months before the invasion.
This story is correct.
However, some local reports went beyond this, and indicated relation to the Russian neo-Nazi group called “Russian Imperial Movement, as RIM had periodically over the years already been heavily involved in Kiev and Kharkiv, and cities along the Dnieper
River like Zaporizhzhia, and Dnipro. I have had conservative Christian American friends in both of these cities as well.
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Reinforcing the Russian Oligarchs and Kremlin angle even further, here are jist a tiny few examples from the New York Post, which the entire DNC and 95% percent of the main networks tried to cover up —
Feom the New York Post —
NYP showed Hunter Biden actually worked directly with the highest Russian Kremlin poc’s to manipulate and control Ukraine energy flow into both Russia and Europe.
Excerpts quoted from “Laptop From Hell” in NYP, and reported by M Divine, from the “Laptop From Hell”, as reported in NYP)
“Hunter Biden had deep connections with oligarchs close to Putin…”
*While his father was vice president, Hunter was paid $83,333 per month in board fees by the corrupt Ukrainian energy company owned by oligarch *Mykola Zlochevsky, who was the former ecology minister under President Yanukovych
Yanukovych and Poroshenko also had long standing direct ties with Putin, and acted to align Ukrainian policy objectives.
“The payment was cut in half shortly after Joe Biden left office. In the five years that he was on the Burisma payroll, to April 2019, Hunter earned $4 million in board fees.”
“According to the diary on his laptop, Hunter flew to Russia in 2012 to meet Abramyan [one of Putins closest Russian oligarchs] *lunch in Washington with his father, then vice-president Joe Biden, and then Chinese vice-president *Xi Jinping.
[As will be seen below, Hunter was acting in a Moscow/Beijing/DC liaison role.
These did not just represent corrupt Russian and Chinese government intermediaries, who knew how to manipulate bureaucracy and policy, and work around Russian and Chinese bureaucracy, but represented direct involment with Russian and Chinese heads of state, and represented direct influence and involvement and corruption, and likely subordination in at some level of US White House decision making.
More to the point, these meetings reveal direct involvement from Putin and Xi Jinping, working to direct *US White House policy [under what was really an Obama/Clinton WH, with Biden as useful, less visible, acting Putin/Xi/Obama liaison.
Ukraine was just one of the long standing Moscow/DNC partnerships, revealing interconnectivity and money flow/laundering between the Clinton’s, Obama, Bidens, and DNC, and Mosxow and Beijing, with Ukraine as a successfully destabilized proxy.
The Moscow/Beijing influence in the US White House could only have influenced much needed political interference within EU/NATO, and through the entire US IC, DOD, DoS, DOJ, and Treasury.
The Kremlin utilized classic DCM corruption protocol for Ukrainian destabilization and monetary gain.
The leftist White House carried out Moscow/Beijing objectives in Ukraine for political.
THEN THIS —
“Hunter’s diary entry for February 16, 2012 shows “breakfast board of directors ‘troika dialog,’ lunch w Ara Abramyan his home” [one of Putins wealthy trusted Kremlin oligarchs], in the upscale Odintsovsky district of West Moscow.”
We didn’t need Hunter Bidens laptop at all to fill in actual recent history between Putin and the DNC hierarchy, but the info is strikingly direct.
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Now Soros —
Soros -
While the Kremlin was the dominant DCM factor in UA, Soros and Obama/Clinton/Biden also worked with Yanukovich (who was indeed carrying out Kremlin DCM to destabilize Ukraine,
and he did indeed flee back to Russia. (DCM - Destabilization by Corruptive Means/Methods, as some in the alphabet’used to reference)
While Yanukovych was closer, both Yanukovych and Poroshenko were tied to Putin, and Putin’s inner circle of Russian Oligarchs, which had long been working to take control of Ukraine energy and commodities.
But then comes Trump —
UA-2019 elected Zalensky with unprecedented 70% percent of the vote. And Zelensky was elected during Trump’s largely hawkish anti-corruption US SoS window and White House triggered Ukraine/DNC investigations. Zelensky ran and was overwhelmingly elected to go after entrenched Ukrainian, Russian, Chinese, and US corruption in Ukraine, and to try and *stabilize what had long been strategically destabilized.
🇺🇸🇺🇦 Zelensky then stood by Trump, when the DNC/Uniparty tried to fraudulently and treasonously frame Trump to carry out a 3rd Coup’d’etat effort, involving Trumps phone call with Zelensky, where ironically the discussion involved going after corruption!🇺🇸
Investigation Source (wow) -
* Soros Actually Seeks To End Zalensky -
Soros = Poroshenko
Renaissance Foundation (Renaissance Capital) https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-president-gives-high-state-award-to-george-soros/27362587.html
Soros strongly Backed Poroshenko Against Zalensky
Some of the Pale was within the old Austro-Hungarian Empire of Emperor Franz Joseph.
One part of my family lived and died in Lemberg/Lviv/Lvov. Executed by the Nazis in WW 2.
Here is another solid and suprising OS piece (from another rag I wouldn’t generally read), shedding light on Putin’s long standing efforts utilizing “destabilization by corruptive means/methods” (DCM), to destabilize Ukraine, and it is not so recent, meaning this has been an ongoing strategy —
The strategy has always existed, but this same strategy has been increasingly used in the US, to blackmail politicians and judges, who then do little things, like make sure there are no real court cases involving globalost efforts to commutative election fraud, etc...
But hey, I am sure many on FR would deny even the possibility of Russian and Chinese influence on US elections, and related officials, so it must not have happened.
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