Posted on 02/22/2022 7:24:33 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Which is simply more uninformed nonsense. Listen and learn. Sin is indeed all bad, however there are degrees of both iniquity and accountability. Thus Sodom was not obliterated because they failed to place fences around buildings of new construction, or ate pork, but for pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekiel 16:49, 50) regionally "giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 7)
Yet in terms of accountability the steadfast impenitence of cities despite seeing profound supernatural manifestations of God's grace by true apostles in word and Spirit mean that "it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee." (Matthew 11:24)
And those who profess to be Christian yet condemn those who seek to obey the Lord in not having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, being a partaker of evil deeds, (2 John 11 "of other men’s sins," (1 Timothy 5:22) shall be chastened along with those who refuse to obey, "And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 22-23)
" Otherwise whats your solution to this gay plague that God approves;? Gay Concentration camps? Mass extermination?...I’m obligated to help them to also help shine the light of Christ on them. "
You are engaging in polemical sophistry, even if in ignorance and desperation, for your response is that of the logical fallacy of a false dilemma, as if there were only two alternatives, providing for the celebration of sin when it is for the express purpose of it, or mass extermination, when instead it means such acts of charity as caring for those with HIV yet not renting a hall for a homosexual ball. But failing to discern the difference then you are not shining the light of Christ on them for manifesting darkness as to how a Christian is to walk in the light.
"I’m obligated to help them to also help shine the light of Christ on them."
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Ephesians 5:11-13)
You are calling Christian business people morons for not capitulating in material cooperation of sin.
“Love one another as I have loved you”.
Christ never condoned sinners nor left sinners where He found them but called them to conversion immediately.
Christ didn't die on the cross for all sinners ….except them gays.
This is but another swipe at Christian business people because you are ascribing thoughts in their minds.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 "Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers: Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God. And such some of you were. But you are washed: but you are sanctified: but you are justified: in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Spirit of our God.
These are those in a state of Grace who have reformed.
II Peter 2:1-3
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers who shall bring in sects of perdition and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their riotousness, through whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not: and their perdition slumbereth not.
Those who Christ died for, some will still go to hell.
and all I pointed out is that sin is equal in the eyes of the lord. Its all bad.
There are some sins that cry out to Heaven for vengeance and there are some that do not. They are murder (Gn 4:10), sodomy (Gn 18:20-21), oppression of the poor (Ex 2:23), and defrauding workers of their just wages (Jas 5:4). Christ also says that some sins are worse than others - John 19:11 Jesus answered: Thou shouldst not have any power against me, unless it were given thee from above. Therefore, he that hath delivered me to thee hath the greater sin.
Thats not accepting of it. Thats pointing out that what you see as no big deal, is a big deal in Gods eyes! The only thing I'm saying is getting into business means to serve all.
No it doesn't. Getting into business does not mean that one bit. I discriminate all of the time on what business I want to take on and what I don't based on many many reasons and yes some of them are moral choices.
Once you discriminate, you are asking for trouble. Bite the bullet and do what Christ is doing for us now, praying for us to reject sin.
Seems like you are doing quite a bit of judging that Christians aren't praying for sinners at all.
You also just contradicted yourself regarding rejecting sin. Also, we have to participate and reject the sin which you are saying is no big deal. Christ doesn't do it all Himself, we have to participate in getting to Heaven.
Anyway, I'm not talking about holding back serving anyone but making special orders celebrating sin which is materially participating in the sin you are saying we should rightly reject.
Otherwise whats your solution to this gay plague that God approves;? Gay Concentration camps? Mass extermination? I don’t condone or accept their lifestyle at all. But if one is starving or needs help, they are my brothers and sisters, and I’m obligated to help them to also help shine the light of Christ on them.
Who is talking about witholding food from people? This is something else you are just pulling out of the air. No one is starving or is in need of help by making a gay cupcake for them.
Your way just makes them hate us more! Like I said, its Gods decision to judge the living and the dead. We’ll all pay for our sins if we do not accept Christ in our heart and ask for forgiveness and pray for others. The gateway to heaven is narrow and few find it, while the road to hell is broad and wide. Free will is what will set all our paths
You are all over the place making wild assertions that have nothing to do with what I proposed. I proposed Christian businesses to not participate in manufacturing or providing services that would make them become an accessory to sin. Not making wedding cakes with two men on top, nor special dishes celebrating lesbian weddings, or creating websites for a gay couple celebrating their "union" or the birth of "their" baby.
That is true, but not according to WOKE from Hell “fluid” ideology.
***Then it is STILL true. In fact, it’s even MORE true now.
I certainly would not want to eat food prepared by someone who might spit or worse in it if I was not looking. However I have a completely different question for someone with legal background. I keep hearing that SCOTUS often will not hear cases until they are “ripe.” Also I read somewhere that you cannot have a case, “tort” until someone’s rights have been violated. Now if this woman wanted to consider going into wedding services but did not yet do so, she therefore would not have an unhappy client yet. Thus, if I have understood these things about “ripe” and what is needed to create a “tort” correctly, I wonder how SCOTUS was able to judge this case without engaging in what the left could say is “judicial activism” which a lot of us have complained about over the years, blaming the left for doing exactly that. Can anyone clarify this ripe and tort aspect of this case for me?
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