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Federal Prosecutor — Local DA is making up nonexistent law to charge Michigan shooter’s parents…
Citizenfreepress.com ^ | December 04 2021 | Kane

Posted on 12/05/2021 7:12:43 AM PST by SmokingJoe

Former high-ranking U.S. Attorney Andrew McCarthy discusses charges against the parents of Ethan Crumbley. McCarthy made these comments yesterday appearing with Neil Cavuto.

Andrew McCarthy — “I really think it’s outrageous, I mean I understand it because people are very hot, emotions are very raw, this was a heinous heinous act.”

“And the state of Michigan has considered a number of times enacting a law, this child access prevention law that many states have adopted which would make criminal what happened here which was the that the parents allowed the child to get access to the weapon. But the state of Michigan has decided not to enact that law.”

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“And you can argue that that’s a good thing or a bad thing but the fact is it’s a thing and it’s up to the legislature to make the criminal law so what happened here is they don’t have a law to prosecute what the parents did even though the legislature’s considered it and not enacted it.”

“So at a time when everybody’s hot and emotions are raw, prosecutors are creating a crime on the fly to attach to these parents. And if you think about it, it doesn’t make much more sense to accuse them of complicity in murder, any more than it makes sense to accuse the school officials of murder.”

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“I’ve never heard of a case where you see parents get charged under circumstances where there’s no evidence that they had any complicity in a plan or something where you know there was an actual objective to kill people and I’ve seen a lot of cases like this and they’re… you want to wring the necks of the people who are involved in them.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; andrewmccarthy; banglist; bscase; crumbley; demprosecuter; education; ethancrumbley; jamescrumbley; jennifercrumbley; massshooting; michigan; neilcavuto; nra; oxford; oxfordhigh; panicporn; ronklain; secondamendment
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I still don't get how you automatically go about charging parents for a crime of murder committed by their son. Gotta be more to this story. Are the parents Trump supporters by any chance? And when is Michigan going to start prosecuting the parents of all them black teenagers who regularly shoot other blacks in Detroit and other big cities with high murder rates?
1 posted on 12/05/2021 7:12:43 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I’m thinking the same thing, waiting for the agenda to be revealed. It seems all of these city DA’s are intent upon political prosecutions now.


2 posted on 12/05/2021 7:15:11 AM PST by skeeter
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Do you think they’d be charged if they weren’t white ?

Are we going to prosecute the moms and dads of gang members?


3 posted on 12/05/2021 7:15:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: skeeter
It seems all of these city DA's are intent upon political prosecutions now.

Yup.

4 posted on 12/05/2021 7:17:48 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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They are charging them knowing it will fail so they can create a groundswell of support in the legislature to pass laws holding everyone responsible who touched the firearm prior to its use....parents, gun shops, etc.


5 posted on 12/05/2021 7:19:16 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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Do you think they'd be charged if they weren't white ?

Not a chance.
Detroit has one of the highest murder rates in America. I've never heard of any of the black parents of the black teenagers who regularly commit murders, ever charged with anything.

6 posted on 12/05/2021 7:21:51 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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It seems all of these city DA’s are intent upon political prosecutions now.

I commented on the first announcement of this prosecution that it was a Soviet Show Trial in the making.

I was right.

7 posted on 12/05/2021 7:22:21 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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And just how is that going to work out in the very high teenage murder rate “African American community”?


8 posted on 12/05/2021 7:23:53 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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Look at the January 6th protestors, in jail almost a year for practicing their 1st Amendemnt constitutional right, no bail while they are tortured and brutalized which is completely and utterly ignored and wiped by the Marxist media. But they grant bail to the feral who ran over and killed 6 people in Wisconsin and released him on just $1000 bail before he did it even though he has a long criminal history. The problem is we have Marxists practicing Cuban style justice. These Jan.6th protestors are in jail SOLELY for being tagged as Trump supporters and you can bet these parents will absolutely be treated more harshly if they too are discovered to be Trump supporters.


9 posted on 12/05/2021 7:24:05 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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“ Do you think they’d be charged if they weren’t white ?”

I think their problem was more of being Trump supporters than simply being white.


10 posted on 12/05/2021 7:24:10 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Brilliant
"prosecute the moms and dads of gang members?"


11 posted on 12/05/2021 7:25:48 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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What about parents making their cars available?


12 posted on 12/05/2021 7:27:36 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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I think I’d go back and ask what all this kid was doing in school for 2019, 2020, and 2021. Kid sounds like an intense (60-plus hour a week) gamer (both parents seem to be working full-time). Kid didn’t just suddenly in a week erupt into ‘killer’.


13 posted on 12/05/2021 7:28:54 AM PST by pepsionice
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It’s common for a DA to enhance her career with a popular prosecution. This gal is angling for Gretchen’s job. Her quick charging the parents before the sheriff even knew and press conference stank of politics.


14 posted on 12/05/2021 7:29:31 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (s)
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In Michigan a person is guilty of manslaughter if “the defendant caused the death of the victim without justification or lawful excuse.” The prosecution will claim that by giving their kid the gun and ignoring the signs that he was planning to kill someone that they, in effect, caused the death of the students. It’s going to be interesting to see how they make their case.


15 posted on 12/05/2021 7:30:31 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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And just how is that going to work out in the very high teenage murder rate “African American community”?

That's easy: selective enforcement and prosecution.

Are you that naive to believe our justice system is blind?

16 posted on 12/05/2021 7:30:31 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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These parents definitely had some moral culpability in the murders committed by their son. What parent buys a gun for a troubled kid? Yet the Soros prosecutors these days are not troubled by the constraints of existing law and certainly don’t enforce laws they don’t like. However they will find a way to prosecute individuals who violate the politically correct narrative and criminalize political opposition. Beria, Stalin’s bloody secret police chief did the same thing.


17 posted on 12/05/2021 7:33:39 AM PST by allendale
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I still don't get how you automatically go about charging parents for a crime of murder committed by their son.

The Communists and Nazis routinely rounded up family members and even neighbors.

18 posted on 12/05/2021 7:34:54 AM PST by fso301
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The prosecution may not have a case, but the parents will be overwhelmed with trying to defend themselves, and end up bankrupt with their reputations ruined. As Mark Steyn says, “the process is the punishment.”


19 posted on 12/05/2021 7:35:37 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I could see some sort of negligence charge for not securing the gun and possibly having given the kid the gun. That’s about it though.


20 posted on 12/05/2021 7:36:11 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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