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Minnesota Turns Down Concealed Carry Permit for Carey McWilliams
AmmoLand ^ | 17 May, 2021 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/20/2021 5:15:13 AM PDT by marktwain

Carey McWilliams is a gun owner, a successful small and big game hunter, holding concealed carry permits for 20 years.  He has been turned down for a Minnesota permit because he is blind. He has applied for a second time.

It is blatant discrimination based on a disability. It probably violates the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).

Update: The Minnesota Sheriff, confronted with the evidence, and with the possibility of an ADA lawsuit, has issued Carey a Minnesota Carry permit.

The initial thought of blind people carrying firearms causes many to do a double-take. Consider the concept more closely and you will see it makes perfect sense. Blind people do not give up their rights simply because they are blind.

Many states do not discriminate against blind people who apply for concealed carry permits. If there are states which discriminate against blind people who apply to simply own a firearm, they are few and poorly documented.

It is every American’s right to keep and bear arms, as affirmed by the Second Amendment and numerous state constitutional amendments.

Carey has written books on how the blind can safely use firearms.

Everyone has limitations on how effectively and safely they can utilize weapons for self-defense, hunting, or recreation. Some people cannot hold a weapon very steadily. Some cannot handle the recoil. Some cannot hear well. Some do not have fast reaction times.

Some people cannot see.  That does not mean they cannot use a firearm for self-defense.  From personal correspondence with Carey McWilliams, in May of 2021:

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: ada; banglist; blind; minnesota; mn; secondamendment
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Everyone has limitations. Being blind does not mean you give up your right to arms and self defense.
1 posted on 05/20/2021 5:15:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“A man’s got to know his limitations.”


2 posted on 05/20/2021 5:18:33 AM PDT by Fido969 ( Sc)
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To: Fido969

Harry Calhan


3 posted on 05/20/2021 5:26:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U ("Jim Acosta pissed in the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: marktwain

“Blind people do not give up their rights simply because they are blind.”

OK. Now, about that Driver License Examination...


4 posted on 05/20/2021 5:26:48 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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There are different levels of blind as well. Not everyone considered blind is completely blind, I'm glad they corrected this for him and I hate that they were forced to use the ADA to do it though.

This was what the sheriff was probably picturing when he slapped the "DENIED" stamp on his application.

5 posted on 05/20/2021 5:28:52 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Beagle8U

*Callahan


6 posted on 05/20/2021 5:29:08 AM PDT by Beagle8U ("Jim Acosta pissed in the shallow end of the press pool.")
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To: Freedom4US
OK. Now, about that Driver License Examination...

Driving is not a right protected by the constitution.
7 posted on 05/20/2021 5:29:51 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Abathar

Carey McWilliams now has six Concealed Carry Permits. McWilliams is more qualified than most CCW holders.


8 posted on 05/20/2021 5:35:27 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Well, hell...
He needs his drivers license too...
Maybe he can drive a school bus..
Lets get him a pilots license also...


9 posted on 05/20/2021 5:47:11 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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10 posted on 05/20/2021 5:51:32 AM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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To: Abathar
I have a customer who is completely blind.

I have been to his home and found him on a ladder using a Sawzall and another time using a 4" grinded in his garage.

11 posted on 05/20/2021 5:52:26 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Freedom4US

Driving is not a right..


12 posted on 05/20/2021 5:55:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Driving is not a right..

Of course it is. Just because it isn't explicitly mentioned doesn't mean it's not a right. The constitution limits government. It wasn't meant to grant rights.

What he doesn't have is the right to endanger other people.

14 posted on 05/20/2021 6:05:43 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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I see both sides here.

A concealed carry permit allows you to carry in public. A completely blind person in their home is absolutely right to carry a weapon, but I don’t know if this case here should set a precedence or not for everyone. This man has trained far beyond the average it’s obvious, but not everyone will attach so much effort into it like he does I don’t believe.

I have drawn my weapon from its holster a single time but never aimed it, it was at a convenience store where a man walked in carrying a knife hiding it behind his arm when he walked to the counter. I stepped two steps to the left of where I was in case I did have to point it I would hit the register on a miss or pass through and not the cashier. I just picture someone not as well trained as this gentleman here and wondering unless he is in physical contact with their assailant how would they know their surroundings not to be a threat to innocent bystanders?


15 posted on 05/20/2021 6:09:34 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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No it’s not a right...

You don’t need to pass a test to exercise a right. Driving is a privilege.


16 posted on 05/20/2021 6:14:33 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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“The initial thought of blind people carrying firearms causes many to do a double-take.”
Ummm... yup.


17 posted on 05/20/2021 6:41:31 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: HamiltonJay

“You don’t need to pass a test to exercise a right.”

Some places you need to pass a test to legally bear a concealed firearm. Does that mean there isn’t a right to bear a concealed firearm?

“No it’s not a right...” “Driving is a privilege.”

Ohio Revised Code, Section 2901.01 - General provisions definitions:

“(12) “Privilege” means an immunity, license, or right conferred by law, bestowed by express or implied grant, arising out of status, position, office, or relationship, or growing out of necessity.”

Merriam-Webster:

“Definition of privilege

(Entry 1 of 2)
: a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor : prerogative “


18 posted on 05/20/2021 7:11:27 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Driving is not a right protected by the constitution.

Mainly because they'd have laughed at anyone who thought the common law right to travel needed to be spelled out in the document.

19 posted on 05/20/2021 7:21:11 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

“Some places you need to pass a test to legally bear a concealed firearm. Does that mean there isn’t a right to bear a concealed firearm?”

No carrying concealed is not a right... you have the right to keep and bear, but you do not have a RIGHT to conceal carry.

Driving is not a right, Driving is a privilege, you do not have any guaranteed RIGHT to drive a motor vehicle on public roads.

You have absolutely no RIGHT to drive... you are grossly mistaken.


20 posted on 05/20/2021 8:21:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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