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Victor Davis Hanson: How Much Ruin Do We Have Left?
National Review ^ | 04/22/2021 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 04/22/2021 7:17:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/22/2021 7:43:26 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

As Americans know from their own illustrious history, any nation’s well-being hinges on only a few factors. Its prosperity, freedom and overall stability depend on its constitutional and political stability. A secure currency and financial order are also essential, as is a strong military.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; decline; ruin; vdh
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1 posted on 04/22/2021 7:17:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH nails it again.


2 posted on 04/22/2021 7:21:54 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: SeekAndFind

Old Man Yells At Cloud


3 posted on 04/22/2021 7:22:03 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

“When do we hit bottom? Why did I get on this elevator in the first place? Can I speak to the elevator operator please?”

I don’t mean to be a Karen, but when DO we hit bottom?


4 posted on 04/22/2021 7:28:23 AM PDT by Richard Axtell ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

“,,,some with Glee,
Some with Horror!”
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Babylon,Babylon has Fallen.


5 posted on 04/22/2021 7:33:24 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: babble-on

Oh? How so? Please enlighten us.


6 posted on 04/22/2021 7:33:37 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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To: SeekAndFind
As Americans know from their own illustrious history, any nation’s well-being hinges on only a few factors. Its prosperity, freedom and overall stability depend on its constitutional and political stability. A secure currency and financial order are also essential, as is a strong military.

Perhaps most important is a first-rate inductive educational system. Of course, nothing is possible without general social calm (often dependent on a reverence for the past) and secure borders.

We are failing on all fronts. But hey, trans rights!

7 posted on 04/22/2021 7:34:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: SeekAndFind
Adam Smith said of successful nations that they have a lot of “ruin” in them. He meant that a dissolute, leisured and ahistorical generation has to waste a lot of its generous inherited wealth before it runs out.

Our political class, our thoroughly corrupt media, race hustlers et al are working 24x7 to ruin the country.

8 posted on 04/22/2021 7:35:37 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH is one of the few remaining voices of sanity.


9 posted on 04/22/2021 7:36:11 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: Richard Axtell

Stop slandering every girl, woman named Karen. That crap belongs on DUmmies.

Smarten up.


10 posted on 04/22/2021 7:36:31 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: Richard Axtell
I don’t mean to be a Karen, but when DO we hit bottom?

God knows. I ask myself this after the most current outrage but within two weeks another occurs and we go even lower. Perhaps when our currency becomes worthless?

11 posted on 04/22/2021 7:37:52 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: SeekAndFind
The greater problem lies within us, as we erode the inherited and acquired strengths that made us singular, both materially and spiritually.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." NB: The quote is from a 50-year-old fictional history of Cicero. "A Pillar of Iron: A Novel About Cicero and the Rome He Tried to Save"

12 posted on 04/22/2021 7:38:16 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Until all American cities are either a burned, ruined wasteland, or craters of glassed, radioactive smoking ruin, with any survivors in concentration camps run by liberal overlords...

Sorry, haven’t had my coffee yet.


13 posted on 04/22/2021 7:40:14 AM PDT by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Roman Empire split into East and West, and shortly thereafter, the West collapsed. Could we also be seeing a scenario where the US splits into a North and South, one of which will soon collapse?


14 posted on 04/22/2021 7:41:26 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: babble-on

Shake your fist in the air. That oughta do it!


15 posted on 04/22/2021 7:46:40 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Richard Axtell

Check out “When Nations Die” by Jim Nelson Black. Old (1995) but prescient.


16 posted on 04/22/2021 7:49:16 AM PDT by MHT
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Biden’s continued badgering of we, the people, on racism is pushing
Americans too far……...... and is inviting one heck of a backlash.

Biden’s constant refrain is about “how bad we are,”
implying he, of course, is “so good.”

Biden tells us, we, the people, need to be “as good as the government.”

The Biden State Dept weighing in shows how far Biden will go to show us “bad people” how really, “really good” the Biden government is.


17 posted on 04/22/2021 7:50:34 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Az Joe
"Stop slandering every girl, woman named Karen."

Only if you agree to stop using the John.

18 posted on 04/22/2021 7:53:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Richard Axtell

when DO we hit bottom?

Look what party is running the country and what is going on in it NOW may be your answer.


19 posted on 04/22/2021 7:53:12 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: SeekAndFind
According to Will Durant, we may be there. Warning--This is long but worth the read.

“Hence a certain tension between religion and society marks the higher stages of every civilization. Religion begins by offering magical aid to harassed and bewildered men; it culminates by giving to a people that unity of morals and belief which seems so favorable to statesmanship and art; it ends by fighting suicidally in the lost cause of the past. For as knowledge grows or alters continually, it clashes with mythology and theology, which change with geological leisureliness. Priestly control of arts and letters is then felt as a galling shackle or hateful barrier, and intellectual history takes on the character of a "conflict between science and religion." Institutions which were at first in the hands of the clergy, like law and punishment, education and morals, marriage and divorce, tend to escape from ecclesiastical control, and become secular, perhaps profane. The intellectual classes abandon the ancient theology and—after some hesitation—the moral code allied with it; literature and philosophy become anticlerical. The movement of liberation rises to an exuberant worship of reason, and falls to a paralyzing disillusionment with every dogma and every idea. Conduct, deprived of its religious supports, deteriorates into epicurean chaos; and life itself, shorn of consoling faith, becomes a burden alike to conscious poverty and to weary wealth. In the end a society and its religion tend to fall together, like body and soul, in a harmonious death. Meanwhile among the oppressed another myth arises, gives new form to human hope, new courage to human effort, and after centuries of chaos builds another civilization."

20 posted on 04/22/2021 7:58:32 AM PDT by MHT
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