House Republicans vote to retain Liz Cheney as their No. 3 leader, rebuffing push by pro-Trump conservatives to oust her

This is truly effing pathetic

Yes that’s true, but in some ways this is better. The Traitor Ten are desperate to spread the damage so that they can’t be isolated and targeted. Right now they have no shield from wrathful real Americans. It’s not feasible to punish 150. The fire for that would die out and they could escape. But for ten? Very doable. I want to see all ten angrily denouncing being primaried for their idiotic wicked vote. Not just for the traitors, but the fear it will give those that ever consider backstabbing us in the future.

"A coalition party would have to unite the white rural and blue collar voters, Hispanics who have largely been placed on the back of the bus by the Democrats, and traditional conservatives in the middle and upper classes.
Trump showed that such a coalition is possible. "

Exactly right, and no real Republican wants to just throw that away.

Trump has the right idea and you know that's true by the incredible amount of flak he gets -- it means he's directly over the right target!

"... history buff ..."

Same here. In particular these days, I think there's an awful lot of the history of the Third Reich that liberals have learned and taken to heart and have been applying.

BOOK BURNING: They're far too clever to actually throw conservative books on a public bonfire, because the optics would just BEG for a comparison to early 1930's German Nazis. But they achieve it in many other ways, and I can recall multiple examples of this going back to the early 90s.

Eg, librarians on a Usenet group advising one of their colleagues on the best excuses to fend off a conservative patron wanting to donate a Citizen Magazine subscription (was published by Focus on the Family), even offering to cover other shelving/stacking costs they might incur. Discussion went something like, "Just tell him you don't want his filthy rotten rightwing Christian mag stinking up your shelves!!" ... "No, no! That might appear to some people to be *censorship*, which could lead to a big PR problem if publicized." ... "Yes, I agree. Instead tell him that []. That should stall things for a few months, and if he's still undeterred after that, then claim that []"

Or conservative journalism majors who were persona non grata at their (student fee supported) campus rag. So they worked their butts off to raise $$ from local sympathetic businesses and started their own weekly paper, setting it out next to the "official" leftist campus paper in the spots designated for free publications. But the week after their first paper came out, a campus security guard in the middle of the night spotted a leftist student picking up every single stack of the 2nd edition, dumping it into a garbage bag, and moving on to the next. He apprehended the student. The outcome was that the security guard was reprimanded both personally and written in his personnel file, for interfering in the "rights" of the leftist student to not have to tolerate speech he found offensive.

How is this any different than the Book Burners? Just done more subtly, but with the same result. Librarians and college admins will fight for the Sacred Rights of their charges to experience the very worst porn / profanity / violence / violent speech imaginable. But the most important part of their Sacred Duty is to protect innocent eyes and ears from conservative political thought.

UNEQUAL POLICE PROTECTION: Before Hitler achieved total control, a major breakthrough for the Nazis was getting Goering into the post of Interior Minister for the German state of Prussia. Though it was just one of many states, Prussia contained 2/3 of the population of Germany. The State Interior Dept directly controlled all of the police forces within it. Goering was a popular "flying ace" WWI hero, who was more palatable to the public than Hitler was. Before Goering got that position, there were brawling mobs of both Right (Nazi party brownshirts and National Party) and Left (Communists, Socialists, Marxists, etc) who were evenly matched out on the streets. When fights were broken up, thugs of all political persuasions were locked up. But with Goering at the helm, the orders were to immediately release the brownshirts and to keep the Socialist & Commie street fighters locked up. This allowed the brownshirts free reign to beat up virtually anyone they were directed to target, and this intimidated all other political parties from holding any large demonstrations.

We're still a long way from that situation in the US, but I see a close parallel in the longterm Soros strategy of putting big bucks into County DA and State Atty General races around the country to elevate into power a growing number of minions owing allegiance to Soros. Look at all the Left Coast & East Coast DA's refusing to charge any leftist street rioters, while throwing the book at conservatives who dare cross them. (Not just on the coasts. Look at that Soros-bought St. Louis DA who let off the threatening mob that had broken thru into a gated community, while persecuting the couple who stood on their own porch with guns in their hands as a message to keep away from their home).

CHILDREN TAUGHT TO HERO-WORSHIP THE GREAT LEADER: Yes. we've all seen old newsreels of the Hitler Jugend with their swastikas. But what about that creepy video of schoolkids singing an anthem praising Obama, and couple that with Obama's official logo showing up in classrooms?

I hate secret ballots. The 61 patriots should name themselves.

Post 205

“Just because the Democrats got away with stealing one election one time does not mean they’ll get away with stealing every election every time.”

Just who do you think will stop them? Taxpayers paid for the paper, ink, corrupt machines, and paid for a host of corrupt election officials...yet, American Citizens are not entitled to see/review the actual paper ballots? Some Judge? Make me laugh harder! A repubican elite like Romney, the turtle douche? Name just one?

No offense meant, but the American I was born in, raised in, served 21 faithful years in uniform and serving after that is gone!

God Bless you and may he keep you and yours from the swarm of harm upon us.

Many thanks for a thoughtful reply. We will have to agree to disagree.

Though distinctly different by definition, Slavery and Communism share similarities. In one instance human beings are owned by an individual, in the other, human beings are owned/controlled by human beings forming a collective state. Either way, both are hideously wrong, barbaric and victims suffer dearly.

Our forefathers warned us of the treachery of establishing party’s. Told generation after generation, there are only two ways, I am done.

Our Flag and our Constitution mean more to me than pledging myself to the uni-party elite that have destroyed America. Our very nation, our God given freedoms and our hard fought liberty stand at the precipice. Yet, you lecture on choosing between to completely corrupt clubs. I am not interested in the least!

I am an America man. I humbly bow to God above and no other on the face of this earth. I love and honor my wife, I protect my children and I have/will continue to fight for my/our America.

I cannot and will not join you in supporting the “repubican party” with a Liz Cheney (Turtle puke, Mittens, etc.) anywhere near power after their betrayal, not of Trump, but of American Citizens.

You may choose to hunker in with traitors and elites pissing down your back telling you it is raining, feeding you scraps and willingly taking your freedom and liberty...

I will not.

Peace.

God above I pray you succeed!

Be our hero’s!

Damn! That was clever and I missed it.

Good on ya!

That my friend, was an excellent and clever point!

Wish you well.

Why thank you. FReegards.

"In particular these days, I think there's an awful lot of the history of the Third Reich that liberals have learned and taken to heart and have been applying."

Totally agree, thanks for the quick review.
Seems like every day there's some story or another referring back to Orwell's 1984 or Animal Farm, and my guess is the reason is, in part, because kids aren't required to read those books any more.
They don't know their past and are blindly repeating it.

These are dark days, but I still expect them to turn around, we've done it before, are not finished yet, far from it...

RetAF_fedUP: "No offense meant, but the American I was born in, raised in, served 21 faithful years in uniform and serving after that is gone!"

I am also ex-military, my family & ancestors served in every major US war beginning with the Revolutionary War.
We are the United States, its Constitution and conservative values.
We defended our nation in its darkest hours, suffered injury and capture, but also enjoyed victory, peace and prosperity.

We are in no-way giving up on our nation, our Constitution or conservative values, not now, not ever, period.
The Republican Party are the inheritors -- the "grandchildren" you might say -- of our Founders.
Our Founders were original Federalists who later dissolved to reform as Whigs who split apart to become Republicans (234 years in a nutshell).
We are the party of the Constitution and traditional Western Values.

Democrats have always been in opposition, from Day One.
They began as anti-Federalists, opposed to ratifying the new Constitution, soon became Jefferson's Democratic republicans, shortened to Democratics, now Democrats.
They invented Nullification (i.e., "sanctuary cities"), defended slavery (now communism), secession, civil war, black codes, segregation & other forms of suppression.
That's who they were, it's who they are: opposed to our Constitution.

RetAF_fedUP: "Our Flag and our Constitution mean more to me than pledging myself to the uni-party elite that have destroyed America.
Our very nation, our God given freedoms and our hard fought liberty stand at the precipice.
Yet, you lecture on choosing between to completely corrupt clubs.
I am not interested in the least!"

I don't think Republicans in general are nearly as bad as many posters here claim.
Rather, across the country in thousands of elected districts of the 50 states they do yeoman work supporting basic government functions and defending constitutional values against the Democrats' onslaught.
They are what separates us from a communistic "utopia".
So before you condemn them all, consider the alternatives.

Now, I'm not Catholic, but you may appreciate a centuries-old analogy: if a corrupt priest delivers the sacraments in church, are the sacraments corrupted by the priest delivering them?
Answer: no, the priest should be disciplined appropriately, but the sacraments remain sacred, regardless.
I would apply that analogy to Republican defenses of the Constitution & traditional values in general.
Bad actors must be disciplined, but the Constitution remains our political bedrock regardless.

As for your interest in third parties, I'm saying: go join one!
Here is a listing of over 50 "third parties", many as conservative as anybody might wish.
They also include "The Transhumanist Party", "The Rent is Too Damn High Party" and, my favorite, "The United States Pirate Party"!

If you wish to join a Third Party, then just pick one and go, enjoy your life, enjoy your new political friends.
But don't expect to make any difference, because you'll be totally irrelevant in national politics.
Third parties amount to nothing more than social clubs, the real political action is in the two major parties, and that's where you must go, if you wish to count for something.

Bottom line: I think we can see the essence of Republicans in two very recent votes:

197 to 10 Republican Congressmen voted against impeachment -- that's 95% in support of President Trump.
145 to 61 Republican Congressmen voted against disciplining Liz Cheney for her vote to impeach President Trump.

Republicans are by nature loyal, but also (unlike Democrats) tolerant of some dissent in the ranks.
My kind of people!

“All leadership votes are secret.”
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I didn’t know that.

Thought long and hard about my reply and your adherence to the party and the party’s.

So, your “ex” military. Thank you for serving, drafted or voluntary.

Forgive me, but you “uniparty dopes” days are numbered. You kneel for everything and stand for nothing!

Impeach his ass, now! Do It! Make sure all your news channels run it up, paste that bullshit on every channel, network wide and cable. Better yet, have the pussy British comment on it again, join in to get “even” and tell us how sad and disturbed they are! Worthless doinks!

If you are not embarrassed about this putrid, pathetic, rank state of impeachment and low class elected officials...YOU are the problem!

These pussy’s won’t impeach Trump. 1) He doesn’t deserve it. 2) 100 + million know now America First!

Molon Labe!

RetAF_fedUP: "Thought long and hard about my reply and your adherence to the party and the party’s."

But in the end you just blasted away with whatever gibberish popped into your head, didn't you?

RetAF_fedUP: "So, your “ex” military. Thank you for serving, drafted or voluntary."

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RetAF_fedUP: "Forgive me, but you “uniparty dopes” days are numbered.
You kneel for everything and stand for nothing!"

And here your babbling nonsense begins.
Sorry, but I don't "forgive" your stupidity, I call it out and dress it down -- what's wrong with you?
Why do you condemn the entire party for actions of a few?
In the House, 95% of Republicans voted against impeachment, in the Senate it was 86% against conviction, plenty enough to block it.
So you wish to condemn the entire party, and therefore elect more Democrats because of the actions of a few?
Seriously, I ask again: what's wrong with you?

RetAF_fedUP: "Impeach his ass, now!
Do It!
Make sure all your news channels run it up, paste that bullshit on every channel, network wide and cable.
Better yet, have the pussy British comment on it again, join in to get “even” and tell us how sad and disturbed they are!
Worthless doinks!"

Here you've gone from babbling nonsense to blithering incoherence.
So, first, get ahold of yourself, cut the cr*p!

RetAF_fedUP: "If you are not embarrassed about this putrid, pathetic, rank state of impeachment and low class elected officials...YOU are the problem!"

It looks to me like the problem is 5% in the House of Representatives, 14% in the Senate.
Those people should be disciplined appropriately, the rest should not be condemned for doing their duty.

RetAF_fedUP: "These pussy’s won’t impeach Trump. 1) He doesn’t deserve it. 2) 100 + million know now America First!"

So now you're going to condemn those who voted against impeachment too?
Seriously, just how insane are you?