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Karl Rove: Continued election-fraud claims would turn GOP senators against Trump
WND ^ | 01/18/2021 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/18/2021 7:12:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

President Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said that as a member of the president's defense team in his upcoming impeachment trial he's preparing to argue that the president's claims of voter fraud did not constitute incitement to violence because the claims are true.

"They basically claimed that anytime [Trump] says voter fraud, voter fraud — or I do, or anybody else — we're inciting violence; that those words are fighting words because it's totally untrue," Giuliani told ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl. "Well, if you can prove that it's true, or at least true enough so it's a legitimate viewpoint, then they are no longer fighting words."

Republican strategist Karl Rove told "Fox News Sunday" he thinks Giuliani has "charted a very bad course for the president" that is likely to persuade at least 17 Republicans to side with Democrats and convict Trump.

"Well, those charges and the so-called experts that the campaign has mustered to advocate them have been rejected by over 50 courts with judges appointed by President Trump, President Obama, Present Bush, President Clinton, and I think even one Reagan justice," he said.

"So if it's the Rudy Giuliani defense, there is a strong likelihood that more than 17 Republicans will (vote to convict) because essentially that argument is this was justified, the attack on the Capital and the attempt to end the congressional hearing on certifying the election was justified because all these charges are true, and frankly they aren’t," he said.

Giuliani and many of Trump's supporters have argued the courts did not dismiss the more than 60 cases based on the merits. And they point, among other things, to some 3,000 affidavits from witnesses of vote fraud.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; fauxnews; gop; gope; karlrove; lowestorder; rino; senators; teampedophile; teamromney; teamsoros
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Rove insisted the Trump team has been "given every opportunity to prove them in a court of law and have failed to do so."

"I think it really boils down to what's the defense that the president is going to make, and if it is Rudy Giuliani’s defense, I think it raises the likelihood of more than 17 Republicans voting for conviction."

1 posted on 01/18/2021 7:12:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Constitutional law scholar Jonathan Turley said the best course for Trump might be to refuse to recognize any Senate trial.

"For a notorious counterpuncher, avoiding a fight might be the most difficult decision of all, particularly because he has obvious defenses. First, he was denied due process when the House held an unprecedented 'snap impeachment' without a hearing or inquiry even though a trial likely would not occur immediately. Even a one-day hearing would have allowed evidence to be discussed as well as a formal request for a response," Turley wrote on his website.

"Second, the impeachment article is poorly crafted and poorly conceived, built around assertions that Trump’s Jan. 6 speech to supporters was an 'incitement to insurrection.' His speech raised potentially impeachable grounds; I condemned it as he gave it and opposed his challenge of electoral votes from the outset. But as I wrote previously, it would have been far better to censure him for it in a bipartisan, bicameral resolution," he said.

2 posted on 01/18/2021 7:13:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bye Bye Rovie !!!


3 posted on 01/18/2021 7:14:32 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not investigating election fraud in 2016, 2018 and now 2020 is poison to the GOPee going forward.


4 posted on 01/18/2021 7:15:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP is already dead, they just don’t know it yet.


5 posted on 01/18/2021 7:15:25 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents{}Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey Rove, bye Felicia!


6 posted on 01/18/2021 7:15:43 PM PST by Billyv ( Ephesians 6:11 for we battle not against flesh and blood...Pray for our leaders and nation )
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh. You’re still here.


7 posted on 01/18/2021 7:16:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: SeekAndFind

boycott rove and any candidate who works for him and his money. you heard me right.


8 posted on 01/18/2021 7:16:35 PM PST by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Continued election fraud denial turns voters against the GOP.


9 posted on 01/18/2021 7:17:17 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents{}Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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If evidence falls in the woods and no judge hears it, did it make a sound?


10 posted on 01/18/2021 7:18:07 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a valid reason that Karl Rove is known as “Turd Blossom.”


11 posted on 01/18/2021 7:18:50 PM PST by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns is are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republican party is now dead to me.


12 posted on 01/18/2021 7:18:51 PM PST by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

this guy is on the list, near the top


13 posted on 01/18/2021 7:19:15 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: SeekAndFind

You fuc&$+g republican senators don’t get it... So allow me to explain..

If there is no difference between you and a liberal democrat, then why should we vote for you?

If we are going to be a socialist country, why do we need amateurs like you trying to run it?

If we are going to be a socialist country, I want it run by professional socialists..

In other words, toe the fuc@#+g line, or face extinction..

Is that clear enough for even your simple minds to understand?


14 posted on 01/18/2021 7:22:17 PM PST by joe fonebone (Free Beer Tomorrow)
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To: SeekAndFind

Karl Rove is what happens when you want to be a political junkie but you have an IQ of about 65.


15 posted on 01/18/2021 7:23:34 PM PST by cockroach_magoo
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D I M . B U L B


16 posted on 01/18/2021 7:23:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (2021: Notice the Communists have lists of things to do. 2016: Notice Mitch and Paul didn't.)
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To: dadfly

Rove always speaks with authority, but is seldom right about much of anything.. professional buffoon.


17 posted on 01/18/2021 7:24:02 PM PST by Rlsau1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Oh. You’re still here.

ALIVE AND STILL KICKING WITH MY WHITE BOARD


18 posted on 01/18/2021 7:24:22 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Rove, you magnificent Democrat!!”


19 posted on 01/18/2021 7:25:10 PM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove smells to High Heaven with the stink of the Bush dynasty.....he probably has something to fear or to hide


20 posted on 01/18/2021 7:25:16 PM PST by Be Careful
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