Try being from Alabama. The sister/wife jokes are unbearable.
Now, it is the War of Coastal Suppression against the fly-over country.
It was the democrats not the south which practiced slavery. The South was held hostage by democrats.
The author should also remember the Times being that great deal sympathetic to the South during the Civil War and that in turn very reflective of attitudes in New York City at the time as many business interests there depended upon the slavery based economy for trade in and out of New York Harbor.
The truth of the matter is that the War Between the States has never ended.
I am southern, grew up in the North and had to hide my accent, attempting to perfect it in the TV News anchor styles. For the most part, I did okay as long as I was careful but every now & then, I slipped. And then.....
Then I moved to the South, now I was a “Yankee”. In Houston, there is a war between the Blacks and the Hispanics, and then between both of those cultures and the Whites. When I was a teacher, I stood between these races to distract them from each other or arguments would happen.
How any of the other cultures made it through - Viet Namese, Sudanese, Caribbean, etc. escaped me. I didn’t understand racism then. I don’t understand it now.
All I know is that there are “no go” places in this country based on the color of one’s skin and accent. The War Between the States and all the things it represented and brought with it: bigotry, hatred, division, ignorance, racism, self-righteousness - pick one - never ended; it’s like the bamboo pole stuck in the ground. You pull it to one side & it bounces back to the other and then back again from where it came & keeps on going.
How does a society ever stop that swing?
New York Grimes. Excellent cat box liner.
I’ve noticed that for many years. The north ALWAYS accuses the south of continuing to fight the Civil War, when it is in fact the north that is ALWAYS the one bringing it up.
I’ve called it Sore Winner Syndrome. They believe that the South should have ceased to be Southern. Plus, I think that some northerners are still a little bit afraid that the South might really “rise again”.
BTW, I’m from Minnesota, but grew up in TN, TX, and spent 2 years in AL while in the Army.
This article is spot on. Many books have been written about the North/South divide during and leading up to the CW in 1861. In fact, below are three excellent books that talk about the differences between the north and south and even the same division that occurred before the country was settled in England. In other words, this country was initially settled by Anglo’s who came from different parts of England. They had their differences there and brought them here to different parts of this country (north, south, Appalachia & PA [Quakers]). In fact, some historians have the opinion that the English Civil War, the American Revolution, and our Civil War was one long string of disagreement among essentially the same people.
And yes, it still exists to this day — except the area has expanded significantly with migration.
The Cousins Wars, Kevin Phillips
https://bit.ly/2Jr8kJR
Albion’s Seed, David Hackett Fischer
http://bit.ly/2Ir3J3M
The Real Lincoln, Thomas J. DiLorenzo
https://bit.ly/2WqHuV0
I am of the firm opinion that the divide we see today is the same divide except larger and not as geographical as in the past (migration and modern travel has seen to that).
Isn’t it interesting that the divide still exists with religion (the demeaning of those who believe in a God above). Anyone remember, “....clinging to their guns and bibles?”
Finally, to illustrate that, I was born and raised in the deep south. In the late 70’s I moved to Atlanta. My first reaction was, Atlanta is not like the south I knew. Even then the growth came primarily from the north and even internationally. Here we are in 2020 and any voting machine will prove that to be true. I had friends who had moved there from the north and they were ecstatic about the hospitality and friendliness of the place. I’m sure it was based on where they came from.
That was 40 years ago. Oh, how it changed. They brought their habits with them — including voting.
Nothing stays the same.
I think for most Northern journalists, their own racism and prejudice comes out in their articles they write. I have been all over this country and the worse racism I have ever experiences is in the San Francisco Bay Area where it is supposed to be the perfection of inclusion. I have witnessed white people with Hillary bumper stickers calling Blacks and Mexican racial slurs at gas stations, and have seen white people demean minorities in stores and businesses. And I have been all over Alabama, Texas, Georgia and South Carolina and never witnessed that.
Indeed, because fewer of them have gone to college, which indoctrinates, rather than educates, I’d say that Southerners are better informed and more intelligent.
- exposes the writer's hidden anti-Southern bias.
For now, I'm going to avoid the "intelligence" comment since there is a genetic vs potential dimension. If the writer is arguing that 300-400 years of living in the south has produced a "more intelligent" gene pool, well, that's a new concept requiring more than a throwaway comment.
Back to the assertion that college education dumbs down people. Sure, there is systemic liberalism in many colleges. That also exists in the MSM, entertainment, and social media "censors." But, having hired and associated with many recent college graduates, I can assure you that any "indoctrination" has been checked at the office door. Indeed, most of the recent graduates seem to understand that college pushes a stupid mix of wokey, pod-eating socialism where it can, but their task was to navigate the minefield and get a degree and an education. Most of the college kids I know were more interested in beer than the impact of patriarchy on post-modern feminism.
Frankly, college is a bit of a training ground for the daily, hand-to-hand combat individuals face with statist narratives. Shielding youths from reality isn't a great way to prepare for life...we want kids who can not only defend tradition but go on the offensive.
But the writer apparently thinks 1) southerners don't pursue higher education as much as non-southerners, and 2) if they did, they'd be indoctrinated. On point #1, the data are mixed. In some reports, the per capita college graduate numbers are higher in the northeast vs south but that's not always the case. Furthermore, college students per capita are higher in many southern states. Thus, at best, the writer Ms Widburg can't do basic research. At worst, she's stupid.
On point #2, well, isn't that special? The writer doesn't say it outright, but her wording about southerners is similar to that of liberals about blacks - "they can't hack it on their own." Parenthetically, the most likely reason for kids to emerge from college unscathed is a strong family - so I suppose the writer thinks southerners can't hack it AND have poor family structures.
I've met plenty of doctorate holders who are dopes and high school dropouts who are decent people - their accent doesn't make a difference. At the same time, there are plenty of sharp people who ARE college educated and idiots who didn't go to college. While I agree the Times has a typical, snobby elitism found in Manhattan (I worked there - it's a thing), the truth is they disdain normal Americans, period. The southerners just happen to be disproportionally normal...THAT is what bothers the Times. To wit: Trump isn't from Mississippi but they HAAAAAATE him.
In short, the writer/American Thinker thinks Southerners are incapable of handling college leftism. Talk about elitism.
This is the New York Times. What do you expect out of that rag?
Northerner: “When are you southern boys going to stop fighting a war that ended 150 years ago?”
Southerner: “That all depends. When are ya’ll going to stop shooting?”
My homepage has a list of Freepers on it not one whit different
I like how slyly the Slimes leaves out the fact that everything connected to slavery, secession, The Civil War and it’s aftermath were the results of the Democrats.