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Help Conservative Alternatives to Facebook and Twitter. Save Section 230 (Barf alert)
National Review ^ | December 2, 2020 11:28 AM | By RICK SANTORUM

Posted on 12/02/2020 10:46:08 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is the foundation for all social-media sites and e-commerce marketplaces we use every day. Congress enacted Section 230 in 1996, reacting to a ridiculous court ruling holding online bulletin board Prodigy liable for user posts slamming Stratton Oakmont — the pump-and-dump stock brokers portrayed in The Wolf of Wall Street. This law says that a platform’s users — not the platforms themselves — are responsible for the content they post. And it protects a platform from being sued for removing content that the platform deems objectionable to its audience and advertisers.

Without Section 230, Yelp could be sued for negative restaurant reviews. Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube — along with Parler and Rumble — could be sued for defamatory content posted by users. Like Twitter and YouTube, Parler and Rumble will need to moderate user content in order to attract advertisers. But without Section 230, they too could be sued for removing or restricting content.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 230; chatforum; nationalrepuke; nationalreviewsucks; repeal
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Sorry, but Section 230 has become a disaster. Big tech companies can censor and act as a publisher without any liability that would normally attach to a publisher.

And, yeah, places like Yelp and Twitter that allow falsehoods slander to travel multiple times around the world while the truth barely makes it out there, do need to bear some responsibility for ruining people's lives. Just look at Nick Sandmann, for goodness' sake.

Monopolisitc sites like Twitter, Google and FB need to be reigned in to allow competition to flourish.

1 posted on 12/02/2020 10:46:08 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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Sorry, Rick, if they abuse it (and they have...MASSIVELY) they lose it.


2 posted on 12/02/2020 10:48:07 AM PST by House Atreides
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I saw the scare tactics starting up here last night. Not buying it.


3 posted on 12/02/2020 10:52:04 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I remember when N R was actually good, thoughtful and logical. That was thousands and thousands of years ago when W F Buckley ran it.

Dropped my subscription when they decided that RINO was the way to go.


4 posted on 12/02/2020 10:53:27 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Screw NR and Santorum.....they have no clue how irrelevant they are


5 posted on 12/02/2020 10:54:51 AM PST by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

why do we have to have liberla/conservative facebooks?

why cant there simply be a “facebook” that doesnt get involved in politics at all? This way people can still stay connected with their friends.

maybe FB should start allowing tags on posts i.e. politics/sports/memes etc... so people can simply “block” from seeing posts that arent of interest to them. I know for a fact 100% that my sis-in-law would like to block ALL political posts and probably most sports posts if she could—regardless of political affiliation


6 posted on 12/02/2020 10:56:45 AM PST by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, if the Democrats don’t cheat)
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There has to be some way to make this law a protection against torts, as it was originally intended, instead of a license to swing elections, and Twitter and Facebook et al have used it. IANAL, but surely this can be done by smart lawyers. If not, then I say repeal Section 230, and let the lawsuits fly. It will then be settled by the courts.


7 posted on 12/02/2020 10:59:05 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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Attempt #2.

There has to be some way to make this law a protection against torts, as it was originally intended, instead of a license to swing elections, as Twitter and Facebook et al have used it. IANAL, but surely this can be done by smart lawyers. If not, then I say repeal Section 230, and let the lawsuits fly. It will then be settled by the courts.

8 posted on 12/02/2020 11:00:12 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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Yelp is a real racket. Anyone can post defamatory reviews of businesses. If the business wants the post removed - they need to pay to join Yelp.


9 posted on 12/02/2020 11:00:32 AM PST by CTyank
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To: backwoods-engineer

The easiest way would be to clarify the true intent, which in broad strokes is: If a website doesn’t control content, beyond basic rules against profanity, threats, etc., it gets immunity. If the website actively edits and/or deletes content, it’s not immune.


10 posted on 12/02/2020 11:04:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus)
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Twitter is awfu close to a deliberately-mismanaged utility.

An unequal ability to broadcast a short, concise message to break news. The equivalent of an AP wire in everyone's hands. Whatever follows Twitter will be simply more diffuse receptors in the internet of things. Twitter is the democratization of democratized communications, but unfortunately its CEO is a micro-dosing, starvation-nation Lunatic, who decided under Trump that Democratization started with a capital "D". That alone is enough to subject him to Section 230, and by that I mean, punish him until another entity can buy Twitter on the cheap, but not FB or Alphabet/Google.

11 posted on 12/02/2020 11:04:19 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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no.

it’s not the dawn of the internet santorum. social media has its “big boy,” monopoly pants on now. it obviously can take care of itself. disallowing individual law suits is always a bad idea, imo. if you’re business today and you can’t survive a few frivolous lawsuits, then you can’t survive period. your business model is wrong. clean it up. hire some monitors, etc.

and anyway even if..., i’d much rather have no mass social media than have monopoly twitter, you(boob)tube, alphabet, comcast/nbc, facebook, etc.


12 posted on 12/02/2020 11:08:36 AM PST by dadfly
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We don’t need to eliminate Section 230, we need to limit it.

We don’t allow lawsuits against the phone company for the content of the conversations that because the phone company is simply the carrier, it doesn’t control the content.

Ditto for lawsuits against ISPs.

What we need companies like Facebook and Twitter to do is to choose. If they’re simply a carrier, distributing the content of others, they should be immune to lawsuits for the content.

But if they’re going to censor the content, they are no longer content-neutral carriers, and they should lose the protections that we provide for carriers.


13 posted on 12/02/2020 11:22:50 AM PST by jdege
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

For the simple fact that there NEEDS to be a “conservative” version of anything proves Section 230 needs to go away.


14 posted on 12/02/2020 11:24:49 AM PST by Retrofitted
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I do not disagree. However I think the only way to force the issue is to go for a full repeal and then craft better legislation that is not abused by monopolistic tech companies


15 posted on 12/02/2020 11:28:54 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus)
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To: proust

Ban it for the liberal sites, but retain it for conservative ones.


16 posted on 12/02/2020 11:33:02 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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I have stated it before…… These social media platforms; Face Book, Twitter, Google, are trying to become the only stage of speaking that we will have and because their beliefs in the Socialist NWO do not support our rights to express our opinions they feel they have the right to control and hamper our freedom of speech.

I posted this recently on Facebook and am now in 30 days of FB jail again. Quote "“Planned voter fraud is treason against America and against the president of the United States. And people who are involved in it when the truth comes out should be executed in public squares!!”"
It was my opinion!

They have proven their ideals in hearings in our government...that they are liars and controllers!

17 posted on 12/02/2020 11:36:29 AM PST by high info voter
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I was a Santorum supporter until he declared George Zimmerman guilty of murdering the mugger who attacked him. Zimmerman was later found not guilty on all charges.


18 posted on 12/02/2020 11:46:07 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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We do not need any laws.

Everybody just needs to cancel their Facebook, Twitter, and Google accounts.

I did it, I am on mewe and Parler now.


19 posted on 12/02/2020 11:50:20 AM PST by DEPcom
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I’m on those as well but I’m not so ignorant to believe that will put the existing ones out of business. Further, an alternative platform doesn’t prevent worldwide abuses against an individual (again, see Nick Sandmann).


20 posted on 12/02/2020 11:55:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus)
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