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Appeals court rules ban on 'conversion therapy' unconstitutional
World Net Daily ^ | November 20, 2020 | WND Staff

Posted on 11/21/2020 8:38:20 AM PST by fwdude

A federal appeals court on Friday ruled that ordinances in Florida banning the licensed counseling of people with unwanted same-sex attractions are unconstitutional violations of the freedom of speech.

"We hold that the challenged ordinances violate the First Amendment because they are content-based regulations of speech that cannot survive strict scrutiny," the ruling from the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said.

The decision was the first from a federal appeals court laws against so-called "conversion therapy" – a term rejected by proponents – since a 2018 U.S. Supreme Court ruling. In NIFLA v. Becerra, the high court ruled the government cannot force an individual or organization to express a message chosen by the government.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 11thcircuit; 2to1; 2to1ruling; 3judgepanel; barbaralagoa; brittgrant; conversiontherapy; eleventhcircuit; homosexualagenda; judiciary; politicaljudiciary; threejudgepanel
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It's a start. Thank you President Trump for appointing constitutional judges.
1 posted on 11/21/2020 8:38:20 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Makes me wonder why a state would try to keep sick people from getting treatment in the first place.


2 posted on 11/21/2020 8:40:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Inmates run the asylum

That was easy.


3 posted on 11/21/2020 8:43:07 AM PST by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.”)
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To: BenLurkin

treatment that they themselves voluntarily choose to seek.


4 posted on 11/21/2020 8:44:50 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: fwdude

Always appreciate good news. Thanks.


5 posted on 11/21/2020 8:45:52 AM PST by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: BenLurkin

If you’re a man who thinks he’s a woman, you’re banned from getting counseling to convince yourself you’re a man, but you’re NOT banned from getting medical “treatment” to cut off your genitals. This country is f*cking SICK.


6 posted on 11/21/2020 8:47:33 AM PST by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
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To: BenLurkin

The State decides if you are sick or not
If not then you are BANNED from seeking medical help, even counseling
Since the State says homosexuality is normal YOU cannot decide to change your sex urges
However if you want to change your gender and sex organs, you have rights

In what universe is this rational


7 posted on 11/21/2020 8:47:49 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change.)
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To: fwdude

Great news for parents who want to protect their children from this evil and insidious “trans” movement. The provision of puberty blocking hormones or surgery to minors constitutes child abuse.


8 posted on 11/21/2020 8:51:26 AM PST by mtrott
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To: fwdude

Right. There’s NOTHING wrong with VOLUNTARY conversion therapy.

Have to allow 3 year old to have transgender therapy and support their right to be gay. But if they want to try to be straight that’s evil and a harm?

BS.


9 posted on 11/21/2020 8:51:33 AM PST by Skywise
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To: fwdude

Attended a Federalist Society event in DC last fall. A woman in the audience asked about enforcing such a ban. She seemed a militant. A circuit court judge on the panel asked her what right the government has to bar an individual from freely choosing a therapy. Zing.


10 posted on 11/21/2020 8:51:56 AM PST by jimfree (My 20 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quiality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: fwdude

I think conversion therapy is a joke (an unpopular opinion around these parts, I admit), but it’s not my views that matter here. If someone wants to go through this, they have that right. No one was forced into anything and no one else is being harmed, so the first amendment argument is a pretty strong one.


11 posted on 11/21/2020 8:53:36 AM PST by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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I was a male trapped in a woman’s body.

Then my mother gave birth to me.


12 posted on 11/21/2020 8:55:14 AM PST by Dacula (Don't NY MY GA!)
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To: fwdude

That is fantastic news! The wicked are losing!!!


13 posted on 11/21/2020 8:55:48 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: JediJones

I’ve heard these called “you must stay gay” laws.


14 posted on 11/21/2020 8:55:55 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: fwdude

Perversion is not free speech.


15 posted on 11/21/2020 8:59:12 AM PST by LibWhacker
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I think conversion therapy is a joke...

If you look at it that way, from the myopic viewpoint of the left, then you are correct.

The reality is that it isn't "conversion" therapy, a label that the sodomite left has given it. It is REPARATIVE therapy, seeking to repair what is broken.

And a lot of these young people who could benefit from such therapy are broken. A majority of them have been sexually molested as minors by grown men. Their sexuality has been turned on its head.

16 posted on 11/21/2020 9:00:28 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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If it were up to the Left....

bidirectional change not allowed— ironic


17 posted on 11/21/2020 9:02:23 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: fwdude

So for the nation’s Maoists it’s on to the next higher court.Next should be the so called ‘buffer zones” around abortion mills.Of course no threatening acts or words should be allowed there...just as they’re not allowed elsewhere.But if someone wants to quietly display a photo of an aborted child that should *absolutely* be allowed...just as photos of warfare are allowed at “peace” rallies.


18 posted on 11/21/2020 9:03:50 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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To: Skywise

“Have to allow 3 year old to have transgender therapy and support their right to be gay. But if they want to try to be straight that’s evil and a harm? BS.”

Agree, of course, but legally speaking, a 3 year old cannot consent to any medical ‘treatment’ (other than killing a baby). So I assume ‘voluntary’ here applies to adults.


19 posted on 11/21/2020 9:11:33 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pressure from LBGT....XYZ to normalize all forms of deviance. Any suggestion that LGBetc is anything but normal must be eradicated.


20 posted on 11/21/2020 9:17:01 AM PST by jimtorr
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