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Second court blocks Trump's order to exclude undocumented immigrants from census
The Hill ^ | 10 22 2020 | Harper Neidig

Posted on 10/22/2020 8:35:31 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

A federal court in California on Thursday ruled against President Trump's order to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census count for apportioning congressional seats, dealing the administration its second court loss over the July executive memorandum.

A panel of three judges for the U.S. District Court in the Northern District of California ruled that the memo was unconstitutional and violated laws governing the census.

"The policy which the Presidential Memorandum attempts to enact has already been rejected by the Constitution, the applicable statutes, and 230 years of history," the panel wrote in a 90-page decision.

The order forbids the Commerce Department from reporting any information to the White House that would help carry out the order.

Trump issued the memorandum in July, ordering the Commerce Department to explore ways to keep undocumented immigrants out of the apportionment process.

California sued to block the order, saying the constitution and the law require that apportionment be based on each state's entire population, regardless of citizenship status.

The Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments next month over a similar ruling from a federal district court in New York in September that found the order unlawful. The high court has fast-tracked the case.

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1 posted on 10/22/2020 8:35:31 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Illegal Aliens


2 posted on 10/22/2020 8:36:59 AM PDT by albie
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Unconstitutional?

Does the constitution apply to non legal residents of the USA?

I’m sure this has been decided but cannot recall.


3 posted on 10/22/2020 8:37:37 AM PDT by Professional
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“A panel of three judges for the U.S. District Court in the Northern District of California ruled that the memo was unconstitutional and violated laws governing the census.”

Going to be a 5-4 SCOTUS. This will be overturned.


4 posted on 10/22/2020 8:37:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Cloward-Piven is finally upon us.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Get ACB on the Supreme Court and this BS will be sorted out. Robert’s whims won’t matter anymore.


5 posted on 10/22/2020 8:38:47 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: yesthatjallen

The Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments next month over a similar ruling from a federal district court in New York in September that found the order unlawful. The high court has fast-tracked the case.


And by then Amy will be on the Supreme Court. Roberts will no longer be able to give what the Democrats want!


6 posted on 10/22/2020 8:38:53 AM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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Yes. “Just to be clear, Your Honor, these are indeed ILLEGAL ALIENS who need to be deported immediately. They should not be counted as residents.”


7 posted on 10/22/2020 8:39:33 AM PDT by oldplayer
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Illegal transient aliens are not residents.


8 posted on 10/22/2020 8:39:50 AM PDT by Petrosius
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“The order forbids the Commerce Department from reporting any information to the White House”

Fine.

So have the Commerce Dept turn over the information to the appropriate Senate Committee, who would then turn it over the Chief of Staff, and . . . Voila!


9 posted on 10/22/2020 8:40:44 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: yesthatjallen

Is not the Census, as described in the US Constitution— to be of the Citizens of the US-— not just anybody who happens to be in the US-— legally or illegally?

Will have to re-read the Article. Whoever they “count” has to be IN the census questionnaire we are required to return.

the Original Intent was to enumerate... and not include foreigners. The abuse of the 13th/14th Amendment in the determination of this (which was applicable to the newly freed enslaved people.... only) has been broadened to include— “anybody who is here”. Try that in France-— hah!


10 posted on 10/22/2020 8:41:26 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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“The policy which the Presidential Memorandum attempts to enact has already been rejected by the Constitution, the applicable statutes, and 230 years of history”

ABSOLUTE BS.

Apportionment is not for the purpose of representing foreign nationals any more then it’s supposed to be about representing slaves. The 3/5 compromise was disgusting when it was adopted - the Northern colonies wanted ZERO - and it’s even more repugnant to count people who invaded the United States in any way: they don’t deserve “representation”. It legitimizes their claim to occupy the land. Is Invasion a civil right?


11 posted on 10/22/2020 8:41:43 AM PDT by Regulator
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Do like the democommies would. Court? Pffftttttt! Ignore, proceed, repeat. Besides, didn’t the census thing end this week already? I wonder if the tried to contact me in person because of the lack of info. Basically, two people of the human RACE live at this address. That is all.


12 posted on 10/22/2020 8:42:03 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Hasn’t the US Supreme Court already ruled on this issue just last week in favor of Trump?


13 posted on 10/22/2020 8:42:06 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Paging Justice Notorious ACB....


14 posted on 10/22/2020 8:43:28 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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These judges are anti American commie operatives. They need to be impeached or worse.


15 posted on 10/22/2020 8:47:10 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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California fighting for its ill gotten congressmen and relevance. Stealing representation from other more honest states and it’s citizens. Totally disgraceful.


16 posted on 10/22/2020 8:48:17 AM PDT by D Rider
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Supreme Court?


17 posted on 10/22/2020 8:56:13 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The left hates President Trump most because he is a truth seeker and is on the Side of the Angels.)
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To: albie

Something needs to be done about these liberal activist judges.


18 posted on 10/22/2020 9:03:27 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: yesthatjallen
The New Supreme Court - the Northern District of California...

As of September 14, 2018:

Age	Title	        Judge	                Duty station	Born	Term of service	                Appointed by
68	Chief Judge	Phyllis Jean Hamilton	Oakland	        1952	2000–present    &2014–present	Clinton
75	District Judge	William Haskell Alsup	San Francisco	1945	1999–present	—	—	Clinton
75	District Judge	Jeffrey White	        Oakland	        1945	2002–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
64	District Judge	Richard G. Seeborg	San Francisco	1956	2010–present	—	—	Obama
52	District Judge	Lucy Koh	        San Jose	1968	2010–present	—	—	Obama
68	District Judge	Edward Davila	        San Jose	1952	2011–present	—	—	Obama
67	District Judge	Edward M. Chen	        San Francisco	1953	2011–present	—	—	Obama
55	District Judge	Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers	Oakland	        1965	2011–present	—	—	Obama
58	District Judge	Jon S. Tigar	        Oakland	        1962	2013–present	—	—	Obama
67	District Judge	William Orrick III	San Francisco	1953	2013–present	—	—	Obama
60	District Judge	James Donato	        San Francisco	1960	2014–present	—	—	Obama
67	District Judge	Beth Labson Freeman	San Jose	1953	2014–present	—	—	Obama
51	District Judge	Vince Chhabria	        San Francisco	1969	2014–present	—	—	Obama
51	District Judge	Haywood Gilliam	        Oakland	        1969	2014–present	—	—	Obama

======================
87	Senior Judge	Thelton Henderson	inactive	1933	1980–1998	1998–present	Carter       &1990–1997
73	Senior Judge	Saundra Brown Armstrong	Oakland	        1947	1991–2012	2012–present	G.H.W. Bush
78	Senior Judge	Ronald Whyte	        inactive	1942	1992–2009	2009–present	G.H.W. Bush
71	Senior Judge	Claudia Ann Wilken	Oakland	        1949	1993–2014	2014–present	Clinton      &2012–2014
78	Senior Judge	Maxine M. Chesney	San Francisco	1942	1995–2009	2009–present	Clinton
72	Senior Judge	Susan Illston	        San Francisco	1948	1995–2013	2013–present	Clinton
79	Senior Judge	Charles R. Breyer	San Francisco	1941	1997–2011	2011–present	Clinton

& denotes Chief Judge of the Court

19 posted on 10/22/2020 9:07:06 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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A three-judge panel — which includes 9th Circuit Judge Richard Clifton, as well as U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh and Judge Edward Chen in Northern California — issued the new court order Thursday.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7274431-City-of-San-Jose-Oct-22-2020-Order.html

20 posted on 10/22/2020 9:12:56 AM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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