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1 posted on 10/12/2020 9:36:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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ON THE ARGUMENT THAT SWEDEN HAS A LOW POPULATION DENSITY ( COMPARED TO SAY, THE UK ):

Yes, Sweden has a low population density if you divide its population by its land area. But Swedes are not evenly spaced out across their country. Most of them live in towns and cities — 85% of the population occupies 2% of its surface area. The idea that Swedes live shyly among the birch trees, plunging into their chilly lakes at the footfall of a stranger, is one of the oddest arguments to have come out of this whole unedifying debate.


2 posted on 10/12/2020 9:37:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This is very much related to Alinksy’s concept that “the issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.”

The virus doesn’t really matter to these people. They aren’t really trying to save lives. Making “progress” in those areas just annoys these people because it totally misses the point. The goal is to make you afraid, and make you surrender to tyranny. If Sweden is showing that surrender is unnecessary, then they are just troublemakers.


5 posted on 10/12/2020 9:40:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Lockdowns were misguided at best, sinister at worst.

End them now.


6 posted on 10/12/2020 9:47:09 AM PDT by karnage
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No Lockdown: The better Sweden does on the Coronavirus, the angrier the critics become

That's because. it's a political pandemic. The medical pandemic ceased long ago.

I've written this on my mask for when I'm forced to wear it, "This Mask is For the Anti-Trump Virus - Political Pandemic."

If I get a reaction, it's usually a thumbs up.

7 posted on 10/12/2020 9:47:13 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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A study of US states also showed no difference in outcomes between those that had strict mask/lockdown orders and those that had much more lax mask/lockdown orders,.

The EU is in the midst of another Wuhan spike despite “getting it right” according to Democrats.

Viruses do not just grow and then die, they are natural, and like the tide, ebb and flow with multiple spikes....which we are seeing regardless of the mitigation efforts.


9 posted on 10/12/2020 9:51:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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bkmk


10 posted on 10/12/2020 10:05:13 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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I will never make fun of Sweden again. They are the only Western country that stood up to this farcical kabuki theater.


11 posted on 10/12/2020 10:07:49 AM PDT by Drew68
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This and the discussion about Real Covid-19 deaths (dying with or from the virus) will surely change the governor’s minds, right?


12 posted on 10/12/2020 10:15:38 AM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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Well the NY Times disagrees . . .


Making sense of Sweden
14 posted on 10/12/2020 10:30:27 AM PDT by RushingWater
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Related and still hardly reported upon:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3881458/posts


16 posted on 10/12/2020 2:02:49 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Ep99: ER Doctor from Sweden Explains it all - the Science, Logic & Philosophy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IeN6sgJ3g
Superb conversation with Dr. Sebastian Rushworth, covering the gamut.

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Covid-19: Does Sweden have herd immunity?
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/09/19/covid-19-does-sweden-have-herd-immunity/

Last 3 paragraphs:
So, if Sweden already has herd immunity, what about other countries? How close are they to herd immunity? The places that have experienced a lot of covid infections, like England and Italy, have mortality curves that are very similar to Sweden’s, in spite of the fact that they went in to lockdown. My interpretation is that they went in to lockdown too late for it to have any noticeable impact on the spread of the disease. If that is the case, then they have likely also developed herd immunity by now. Which would make the ongoing lockdowns in those countries bizarre.

What about the vaccine? Will it arrive in time to make a difference? As I mentioned in my first article, lockdown only makes sense if you are willing to stay in lockdown until there is an effective vaccine. Otherwise you are merely postponing the inevitable. At the earliest, a vaccine will be widely available at some point in the middle of next year. How many governments are willing to keep their populations in lockdown until then? And what if the vaccine is only 30% effective? Or 50%? Will governments decide that is good enough for them to end lockdown? Or will they want to stay in lockdown until there is a vaccine that is at least 90% effective? How many years will that take?

So, to conclude: Covid is over in Sweden. We have herd immunity. Most likely, many other parts of the world do too, including England, Italy, and parts of the US, like New York. And the countries that have successfully contained the spread of the disease, like Germany, Denmark, New Zealand, and Australia, are going to have to stay in lockdown for at least another year, and possibly several years, if they don’t want to develop herd immunity the natural way.


17 posted on 10/12/2020 5:24:37 PM PDT by Qiviut (Fox "News": Unfair, Unbalanced & Unhinged.)
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