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ATF Places Some AR-15 Pistols with Stabilizer Braces Under NFA
Breitbart ^ | 07 Oct 2020 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 10/07/2020 2:05:33 PM PDT by PerConPat

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To: LouAvul

Confusing.


61 posted on 10/07/2020 3:51:23 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: myerson

The damn thing is so broad. AOW probably includes the homemade, bored out bolt and BB cannons neighborhood kids made when I was in high school.


62 posted on 10/07/2020 4:13:03 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: Charles Martel

Didn’t watch the video, but poking any alphabet agency is not smart.


63 posted on 10/07/2020 4:18:34 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: PerConPat

They also did this about thirty years ago when some enterprising individual made a non-attached stock for a handgun. The item fit from the wrist of the hand to the shoulder.
As the Popiel Pocket Fisherman used to say, “And it really really works!” That’s why it was banned.


64 posted on 10/07/2020 4:18:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TalonDJ
My SBRs took 6 months in 2015. My wife purchased the suppressor. It will go in the NFA trust so we can both use it. She wants it for her Ruger pistols. I want it for my bolt action rabbit rifle. We finally have some bunnies to hunt here in southeast Idaho.
65 posted on 10/07/2020 4:26:29 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LouAvul
Because it can be extended to 13 inches is the disqualifying criterion. It's no longer a brace and is a stock, hence, illegal.

This company was probably on ATF's radar for some other dumbassery. IIRC, one of the guys at Q has commented on suppressor tube replacements, saying that you could take a registered "can" and transfer its serial number to a new tube with entirely different internal baffles (destroying the old tube) and that would be legal.

Seems like the sort of thing that would earn a company some extra scrutiny.

66 posted on 10/07/2020 4:35:38 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: PerConPat
"Why this? Why now?"

You're joking, right? You don't know what happens on November 3rd and don't know who the "deep state" individuals are wanting you to blame?

Anyone who doesn't know by now will not benefit from attempted explanations.

67 posted on 10/07/2020 4:54:34 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Nothing on earth pursues legalisms like the deep state, fourth branch of government. After all, to them, its the letter not the spirit of a law that matters.


68 posted on 10/07/2020 4:59:12 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Reagan did worse than that.

Ronald Reagan on Gun Control | NRA
MAY 15, 2018
IN HIS WORDS
https://www.reagan.com/ronald-reagan-on-gun-control-nra

“However, as the debate over gun control became more nuanced in the years to come, so too did Ronald Reagan’s positions. In the early 1990s, he announced support for the Brady Bill, named for his staffer who was paralyzed by the 1981 attempt on Reagan’s life. That legislation, which called for background checks for gun purchases, was adopted in 1993. The topics of Ronald Reagan, the NRA and the 1994 assault weapons ban were among those fueling public debate about gun control that year. The former president joined Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter in publicly calling on Congress to ban the manufacture of military-grade assault weapons.”


69 posted on 10/07/2020 5:01:40 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: familyop

It was rhetorical...To invite discussion...LOL, you seem to be somewhat judgemental. Perhaps not all of us are as gifted as you.


70 posted on 10/07/2020 5:03:10 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: familyop

By then, Reagan was senile. My uber-conservative mom got more lib in her last few years. I expect it to happen to me when my mind goes.


71 posted on 10/07/2020 5:07:27 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Myrddin

You seem knowledgeable. Can states bypass these laws by passing state laws on non interstate equipment. For example, can a state legalize mufflers manufactured in the state as long as they don’t leave the state or for sale outside the state.

I want to push states to pass hearing protection acts. Legalize mufflers.


72 posted on 10/07/2020 5:09:00 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: PerConPat
"It was rhetorical...To invite discussion...LOL, you seem to be somewhat judgemental. Perhaps not all of us are as gifted as you."

Oh, okay. We've seen many attacks against President Trump and the NRA here, though (bump stocks, typical big pay for NGO heads, etc.).

73 posted on 10/07/2020 5:09:46 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: familyop

Good points...I agree with you...


74 posted on 10/07/2020 5:12:09 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

California Reagan was part of the reason for President Trump (men at work).


75 posted on 10/07/2020 5:15:10 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: PerConPat

The arm braces were always a ruling away from this.

Local shops won’t stock them for that reason.

But, they have been in the “wild” for years now. This ruling makes me think the ATF is counting on a Trump loss.


76 posted on 10/07/2020 6:15:00 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: wgmalabama

They have done so with illegal drugs. So I don’t see why not. Except that the .gov doesn’t care about drugs (except to raise money). It does care about guns.


77 posted on 10/07/2020 6:21:32 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: Myrddin

> son ... paperwork

If he is a responsible party in your trust, what is now normal practice is to include an amendment to the trust with your filing that removes him and everyone else except you.

Then later you can shred the amendment. That does not have to be reported.

Ask your NFA lawyer. Mine recommended this to me and the trust was accepted by ATF a few months ago. They granted the requested stamp(s). I am now free to shred the amendment if I want to.

You do not need to get paperwork from your son if the reason is that you want him in the trust.


78 posted on 10/07/2020 6:27:16 PM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: PerConPat

I thought we already went through this?


79 posted on 10/07/2020 7:28:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: PerConPat

“Sources note that the number of privately-owned AR-15 pistols with pistol braces could be in the millions.”

Yep.


80 posted on 10/07/2020 7:35:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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