Posted on 10/07/2020 2:05:33 PM PDT by PerConPat
Congress gave them the power to make “rules” with the weight of law. So, yes.
I'll bet some agency bureaucrat initiated this decision.
You know the kind. Someone never having been elected into office,
thereby bypassing any kind of legislative consideration , or approval.
Not sure I’m getting your point...Please clarify for me if you’d like, and I’ll respond. Thanks...
Interesting...In my first post, I was expressing my questioning of the timing..
I have read on my gun forums that the company even had (in their advertisements) pictures of shooters shouldering the gun like a rifle. That’s specifically what the ATF forbids. A “brace” is a brace. A stock is different.
This. All that's necessary is for a company to get onto the radar of the ATF. They'll keep scratching until they draw blood.
Here's the manufacturer's recommendation:
[Begin quote] Q encourages possessors of the Honey Badger Pistol to take these proactive measures until a resolution is reached between Q and ATF.
1. Complete one of the following:
A: Remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and dedicate it as a replacement for another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle; or
B: If you do not possess another AR-style pistol or registered short-barreled rifle, remove the barreled upper receiver from the lower receiver and temporarily transfer it out of your possession by, for example, transferring it to the dominion and control of another individual; and
2. Once the previous step is completed, you may file an ATF Form 1 to register the lower receiver as a short-barreled rifle. Upon Form 1 approval, the firearm may be reassembled.[End quote]
Well, the ATF has clarified that a brace is a brace, but if you happen to hold it to your shoulder as if it were a stock you won’t be in violation of the law. It just can’t be designed as a stock, which is what this is - instead of a split rear portion that fits around the arm that may look like a stock (but isn’t) they put a solid stock on it with a strap underneath it. That’s a no-no.
B isn’t going to resolve it. Remember, the lower is “the gun” and it has the part that the ATF has specifically called out. Now you’ve dragged someone else into the problem.
A better option IMHO is to remove the offending part, replace it with an actual approved part (Shockwave Blade, for example), send the part back to Q via trackable common carrier and then you don’t have this problem.
Yep - got the concern trolls all worked up because a rifle is being called a pistol and its now being called a rifle - maybe they’re rethinking on whether a man can put on lipstick and actually be called a woman...the manufacturer just pushed the envelope a bit too much.
Hmm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEHb5H37Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNvgFfrcAI
In depth discusion of this subject with SB Brace inventor and Q owner.
Possibly worthy of a re-ping.
One can hope for a sensible solution, such as you describe, perhaps reached via private discussions with the company. Unfortunately, ATF has a long-standing policy that can be summed up as, "once a rifle, always a rifle". Because ATF has already determined that the Badger is a rifle, the same lower receiver couldn't legally be used to subsequently assemble a pistol. Obviously, there are exceptions to that policy (notably the TC Contender), but I would be surprised if ATF went that route. Officially allowing the Badgers to be converted back to handguns might give them a special legal status, and unintentionally benefit the company, which is not likely high on the ATF's priority list...
BECAUSE THE SAME DEEP STATE TRAITORS WHO INFECT THE FBI, DOJ. BLM, IRS, CIA. STATE DRPT., ETC. INFECT ATF.
That is my take as well...My questions were rhetorical...You nailed it...
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