Posted on 09/25/2020 3:17:10 PM PDT by fishtank
What is crazier? the Flood or the Resurrection?
An unbeliever doubts both of those miracles.
I doubt neither.
Rachel Maddow has made a career of trying to look intelligent and edgy.
Haha!
/sarc
Glad to hear you’ve seen the museum... I live closer to the Grand Canyon than a Ohio, though...!
“What is crazier? the Flood or the Resurrection?”
That is my take as well. Plus, Jesus would talk about those old miracles and never stopped and said “Oh, BTW - that’s not how it really went.”
Years ago we had a new associate pastor in our small country church. He gave a sermon leading up to Christmas about the Virgin Birth. He said some crap about how it was the “story” that was important, and the “meaning” behind the story - not the actual event. He preached that there was no Virgin Birth.
My wife and I invited him and the head pastor over for dinner soon afterwards. I asked him if the virgin birth isn’t real, I’m guessing you don’t think the Resurrection is real either?
“Well, like I said before, the story and what it does to our hearts is....”
“No - yes or no - is the Resurrection of Jesus Christ an actual event or not?”
“Well, you know my answer - no. Of course not.”
We thanked them for their time, and told them that we would not be back. Admonished the new head pastor (he was below average, but not terrible) for bringing this guy into the church. It sucked. Wife and I met in that church, sang in the choir, got married in it, etc.
I mentioned that story to a later pastor at another church and said something like “I’m not sure how you can get a degree from Princeton Seminary believing that!?”
“Princeton? That’s probably where he got those crazy ideas.”
Pinging you to this thread of interest.
Honest answers to your question, which is valid.
https://www.gotquestions.org/does-God-make-mistakes.html
You either believe the Bible or you don’t. All of it.
1. Creation in 6 days
2. Worldwide Flood
3. Demons/Angels creating Human Hybrids in Genesis 6
4. Animals talking
5. Angels killing over 185,000 soldiers in one swoop
6. A day when the sun stood still & time paused
7. Virgin Birth of Messiah
8. Resurrection of God-Man
9. Apparition of Prophets of Old
10. Transportation of Saints to other dimensions (Heaven)
It’s all in there.
Sad that some folks think The Bible is a bunch of fairy tales.
Half right, according to a theory I had decades ago in high school. I can’t believe that geologists haven’t figured this out.
Geologists all agree that crustal material is lighter than the mantle, hence the floating plates. I believe that the Earth’s crust formed as a result of the Theia impact 4.5 billion years ago, Pangaea being merely the high spot of a very unevenly-cooled planet. I believe the Earth’s tectonic plates - i.e. the ‘crust’ - are overwhelmingly comprised of what remained of a liquified Theia post-impact. The bulk of the material which later coalesced into Earth’s oceans and atmospheres likely also originated from this event, the lighter ejecta taking millions of years to coalesce into the Moon. Later impacts ultimately resulting in its mostly-spherical shape we see today.
Earth’s tectonic plates were eventually driven into motion due to a combination of gravitational forces imparted by the VERY closely-orbiting Moon (it’s hard for most people to imagine how large the Moon would have appeared in the sky 3 billion years ago) and a turbulent liquid mantle.
Interesting post.
Mars is one of those ancient phenomena that puzzles me.
Why are 95% of it’s charted craters found only in it’s northern hemisphere?
Why did ancient cultures fear it so much? The “War” Planet. Some astronomers posit that its orbit was shifted sometime in the past and that it used to come extremely close to Earth about once every 75 years or so. Almost as close as the moon.
How did Jonathan Swift know that Mars had two moons when he wrote Gullivers Travels? This wasn’t “discovered” until recently supposedly. Did he know something we don’t? Other ancient cultures also knew about those two moons. Maybe Josephus, Herodotus, or Polybius had some info about it? I probably need to look that up.
Take me for a ‘flake’, but I personally think there may have been some sort of cosmic war in the distant past and it destroyed almost all life in the Solar System. Those craters could have been the result of ‘heavy artillery’ and it would explain the destruction of the 5th planet between Mars & Jupiter.
” and his heart was deeply troubled.”
His heart, not his mind.
Powerful post!
We’re living in these last seconds of The Age of Grace, and 98% of people in this world think this ship will just keep sailing forever. I think we’re very close to that Judgement you speak of hitting.
The Earth is a huge lava lamp! I have two, time to plug them in and enjoy the similarity to the Earth.
It’s all there, except anything about Tectonic Plates.
I don’t know much about the tectonic plates discussion, if that is what you were referring to, forgive me for not understanding everything you posted.
There’s a good YouTube channel regarding The Flood called “Is Genesis History” with several PHD believer Profs talking about exactly that. They talk about all sorts of evidence of a massive worldwide flood and how geology supports it worldwide. I’ve learned a lot from it, but I would be remiss to say I understand all of it.
Cosmic War? That is an interesting proposition. Graham Hancock writes that we have a collective amnesia regarding our past. He belives there was civilization prior to the flood. and that Earth was not populated with knuckle dragging oafs....After all we are only talking some 15 thousand years ago.... All of it is fascinating...Look at the Indian legends and the story of Krishna. Maybe there was a cosmic war...
This sort of stuff is pretty fascinating to me.
https://www.amazon.com/Graham-Hancock/e/B004561L0S%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Which book of his do you recommend first?
I would probably start with the last two. The reason being, Magicians of the Gods was written in 1995...20 some odd years later it was Finger Prints of the Gods and then the book about the Americas. I have yet to read the last two, but am very familiar with his work. Randall Carlson has some great podcasts. He now has his own podcast Kosmographia (?) and then some Joe Rogan shows. Find the Joe Rogan show around 511? That would be the first time Carlson was on Joe Rogan. You mind will be blown. Hancock got much of his information regarding the geology of North American from Carlson...
This is a most likely Biblical scenario, replacing plate tectonics with hydroplate theory.
Center for Scientific Creation
https://www.creationscience.com/
Wow! Thanks!
I’ll bookmark it.
Even God contemplated if the decision to have kids was a good idea. . ."what was I thinking?". . .Hey, I can relate. . .but at the end of the day.. .love conquers all doubts, pains and disappointments. . and, as we know. . God IS love.
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