CDC/ScreenshotPosted on 09/03/2020 6:28:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Over the last two days, there has been quite an uproar over the CDC’s statement that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were as a result of the virus alone. The following statement on the agency’s website caused confusion and debate:
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
For readers who have followed news on the pandemic closely, the number made sense. We have been told for months that those with the highest risk of dying from the virus are elderly with preexisting conditions. This would indicate that very few healthy individuals die from the virus. Six percent would seem like a logical number for deaths attributed to COVID-19 alone.
However, after further research, I found that the death certificate data is actually cataloging comorbidities. These are the illnesses that are the primary and proximate causes of an individual’s death. A comorbid condition is not always a preexisting condition. For example, a patient may develop adult respiratory distress syndrome in late-state COVID-19. Both may be listed on the death certificate.
Likewise, a person may have late-stage cancer. They may then catch COVID-19. The cancer is obviously a preexisting condition not caused by COIVD-19, however, both may be listed on the death certificate. Both of these situations were reflected in the mortality data.
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The CDC statement was poorly worded and caused confusion across the media landscape and for the public. After downloading the entire data file, I was able to estimate the number of deaths in people with preexisting conditions.
Deaths are coded using ICD-10 codes. These are the same codes used for medical billing and can be viewed online. After eliminating the codes that are typical diagnoses caused by COVID-19, such as respiratory failure, the following data remains.
(CDC data compiled 9/2/2020)
These calculations based on preexisting conditions are in the ballpark, but they are not perfect. The reason a range has to be calculated is that the illnesses in yellow can be either acute, and caused by COVID-19, or chronic. Because the chronic forms are prevalent in the elderly, I calculated the rate both ways. The death certificate data puts the ICD-10 codes for acute and chronic illnesses on the same line.
Those shaded in green are ICD-10 codes that are not caused by COVID-19. The line “All other conditions and causes (residual)” contains hundreds of ICD-10 codes. Because the codes include illnesses such as HIV, autoimmune disorders, blood disorders, and other diseases of the immune system, it was placed in the category of always preexisting conditions.
They lied, to get the numbers up, so they could blame the deaths on Trump.
Thus, it’s just the flu. If we classified and tested for flu deaths the way we are doing for the China virus we would see even higher numbers.
Confusing? How can only 6% of all covid deaths had only covid listed on death certificate be confusing? 94% had an average of 2.6 other things listed along with covid.
We are in a bad way as a country when something so simple could be “confusing”.
It doesn’t do any good to pretend covid deaths are 6% of the total when the “percentage of expected deaths” are running 120+k over the average number of expected deaths for the last number of years. There are definitely more deaths this year. I downloaded the huge CDC provisional death count excel file and on July 18 we were running 105,239 over last year. No doubt about it. That number is pretty accurate. The expected deaths over 100% are covid only, and covid with comorbidities that wouldn’t have killed the person in previous years.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
Bingo, and if we had ever tested for H1N1, MERS, and SARS the way we do for SARS-CoV-2 (people who have no symptoms or mild symptoms as well as those with greater symptoms), then we would have higher numbers for those as well.
Problem is, Donald Trump wasn’t the President when those illnesses came about.
The excess deaths are easily explained by the skyrocketing increases in suicides and drug overdoses we are seeing as a result of these lockdowns and virus measures being imposed on the public.
Lets see some solid information on that. It’s certainly a factor and there should be some CDC data on it. Do you know where it’s at?
I don’t see poison ivy listed in that chart.
CDC stats run 1 to 2 years behind. A google search will reveal several articles stating that suicides are up 30-50% in many areas and similar increases in overdose deaths.
Do you really think there has been a 100k increase in suicudes/overdoses in 2020?
Why wouldn’t I?
In fact, I think that number understates it substantially.
Ok post some objective data to back it up.
Then posting some objective data to back it up should be easy. I’d like to see it.
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