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Roger Stone Proves The Foolishness Of Trump's Loyalty (Enormous Barf Alert!!!)
Townhall.com ^ | July 20, 2020 | Ian Haworth

Posted on 07/20/2020 3:47:22 PM PDT by Kaslin

In addition to being judged by the content of our character, we are often judged by the company we keep. Those we choose to befriend, associate with, or defend can provide a broader window into our moral psyche. As a result, members of the political Left are routinely criticized - and quite appropriately so - by the political Right for frolicking with people of “questionable” moral character. Whether it be Colin Kaepernick hobnobbing with terrorist sympathizer Linda Sarsour, Barack Obama grinning alongside the racist and anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan, or former Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn describing Hamas and Hezbollah as “friends,” the conservative Right reacted with understandable and justifiable outrage.

Unfortunately, many conservatives fail to apply the same standards of association to their own leaders. Playing into the overused fallacy of “whataboutism,” the Left are able to shrug off legitimate criticism of their absurd associations with bigots, terrorists, or dictators by simply pointing out the obvious hypocrisy demonstrated by some conservatives who ignore this exact problem in their own ranks.

In this context, President Donald Trump has repeatedly demonstrated an appallingly poor judgement of character. His friends include Michael Cohen who received a three-year prison sentence in December 2018, and Paul Manafort who was sentenced to prison in March. Most recently, Trump commuted the prison sentence of his friend and adviser Roger Stone, sparking predictable outrage from the Left.

It’s important to avoid the same whataboutism which is used to justify the Left’s frequent association with terrorists and dictators. Yes, there was no comparable outrage when Barack Obama pardoned Oscar Lopez Rivera, who “was considered a top leader of the Armed Forces of National Liberation, or FALN, an ultranationalist Puerto Rican group that claimed responsibility for more than 100 bombings at government buildings, department stores, banks and restaurants in New York, Chicago, Washington and Puerto Rico during the 1970s and early 1980s,” according to Fox News. In addition, yes, Roger Stone is not a terrorist, and yes, Roger Stone’s sentence was probably overly harsh for political reasons.

However, these are irrelevant points when we consider that we, as conservatives, claim to pride ourselves on logical, ideological, and moral consistency. It is bad enough that many conservatives celebrated the commutation of Roger Stone’s sentence when they would have reacted with utter horror had Barack Obama pardoned one of his friends. What makes this worse is that Roger Stone waited 8 whole days to prove that Donald Trump’s public acknowledgement of both association and loyalty was drastically undeserved.

Speaking on “The Mo’Kelly Show” on Saturday, Roger Stone was asked whether his relationship with the President was a driving factor behind his commuted sentence. Mr. O’Kelly asked “There are thousands of people treated unfairly daily, how your number just happened to come up in the lottery, I am guessing it was more than just luck, Roger, right?” In response to this objectively reasonable question, Roger Stone muttered “arguing with this Negro.”

Despite protests from Roger Stone, the audio is clear. He used a racial slur. While this is unforgivable for any reason, the fact that it was in response to a fair question makes it even more disgusting. By using such foul language, he provided another bridge between President Donald Trump and those who speak and act in a manner which is antithetical to the expectations of true conservatism. The fact is that, with one word, Roger Stone proved why Donald Trump was foolish to commute his sentence. If Trump cares about the label of immorality which his associates smear across the name of conservatism, then he must abandon his misguided predisposition to reward loyalty above all else, and do his job:

Protect America and conservatism, not his friends.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; loyalty; rogerstone

1 posted on 07/20/2020 3:47:22 PM PDT by Kaslin
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All of the people put behind bars were maybe, possibly guilty of minor infractions for which friends of Bill and Obama did much worse and got praise rather than prison time.

After throwing mud on all of Trump's associates, the MSM now comes in and claims that all of Trump's friends have mud on them.

How effing convenient!

It's like conservative speakers having their college speeches cancelled due to the fear they will incite violence... but not violence by their supporters (as is normally a good cause to deny a speaker) but violence by the opposition.

Once again, how effing convenient.

2 posted on 07/20/2020 3:54:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Friends Of Bill = FOB

Placaters Of Obama = POO

3 posted on 07/20/2020 3:56:08 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Kaslin

“Do your immorality the RINO way,” in other words.


4 posted on 07/20/2020 3:57:28 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Kaslin

So Ian Haworth thinks Roger Stone should do three years in prison for saying “Negro”?


5 posted on 07/20/2020 4:06:15 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Kaslin

Stone has a big mouth. Do your president a favor and shut up.


6 posted on 07/20/2020 4:07:09 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Kaslin

So that article basically says Trump was wrong to commute Stone’s sentence because he called the host a derogatory name. He should have gone to prison, all because he’s not very nice to people.

Do the people who write this garbage even think about what they are saying?


7 posted on 07/20/2020 4:09:19 PM PDT by FreedomVsControl
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To: Kaslin

Is the word “Negro” a racial slur???

Is the word “Negroid” a racial slur???


8 posted on 07/20/2020 4:09:25 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Kaslin
Negro is not a slur.

Ken Hamblin used it all the time to describe himself. He was also known as the Black Avenger

Pick a Better Country: An Unassuming... book by Ken Hamblin
www.thriftbooks.com/w/pick-a-better-country-an...

Ken Hamblin is a first generation,self-made American. He does not use hyphens or letters to describe himself. Instead,he calls himself colored or negro. In his book he illustrates the disservice done by liberals to blacks and other minorities in America. He points out the fact that the liberal’s patronization of minorities has done more harm than good because it fails to allow an individual to accept responsibility for their own actions. Ken Hamblin uses examples from his own experiences as a journalist. He also cites personal observations while traveling across America on his Harley-Davidson motorcycle and in his airplane, of what he sees going on around him. Witty and at the same time hard hitting, he exposes the on-going liberal hypocrisy and how it rewards laziness,while simultaneously condemning achievement. He offers simple, easy to adopt solutions to this problem. He also prints comments from listeners of his syndicated radio program. America still works, the dream is still alive. The viewpoints are an American view. Very real, very informative, and very entertaining.

9 posted on 07/20/2020 4:16:49 PM PDT by FR_addict
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“arguing with this Negro. He used a racial slur.”


I know that “negro” is considered dated, but when did it become a racial slur? When I was growing up, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, it was considered the polite way to refer to those are now called blacks—which of course in negro in Spanish.


10 posted on 07/20/2020 4:22:44 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Kaslin
Roger Stone muttered “arguing with this Negro.”

Despite protests from Roger Stone, the audio is clear. He used a racial slur. While this is unforgivable for any reason


I am younger than Roger Stone (whom I dislike due to his role in the founding of "Republicans for Choice" and general bad behaviour from before his affiliation with Trump), but I was taught in New England as a youngster that Negro was the POLITE word to use for black people. That's why we have a NEGRO College Fund. It may be out of fashion now, but I don't ever recall it devolving into a slur. Based on what little I know of Mr. Stone, he was likely being ironic, and can't really turn that off.

Accusing Trump of having bad friends because they are arrested and convicted only because they work for Trump is insane.

Trump has made some bad choices, including those (like Sessions) who had no known character issues but proved they were not cut out for their roles. He also made some excellent choices, starting with Mike Pence for VP.

Trump has a limited pool of talent to draw from, and many are (like Bolton) putting themselves above their duties even when there is a whole career of apparent good behaviour to vouch for them. The universities have systematically chased out the future Russell Kirks, R. Emmett Tyrells and Pat Buchanans into private enterprise and non-political professions. It is no wonder that two of our brighter lights ,Mark Steyn and President Trump, did not take traditional paths to their present place.

If Mr. Holworth places the grammatically and factually correct use of the word "negro" as an obvious unforgiveable sin, his list of such must be VERY long, and he has no friends who can be honest with him. I guess he probably cannot forgive President Trump's mother for calling Elton John a faggot in 1999. (A term Sir Elton himself uses frequently in his "Texan Love Song" of 1973) If his list is NOT so long, allowing for people who think that baby killing and mutilating the bodies of confused adolescents are at worst forgivable sins, his ideas of morality and his priorities are totally disordered.
11 posted on 07/20/2020 4:23:51 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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make of it what you will...read all for Stone’s version:

19 Jul: Gateway Pundit: Roger Stone Responds To Racial Smear From Leftwing Radio Host
By Jacob Engels
As reported exclusively earlier this morning by TGP, Roger Stone was attacked by Mo’Kelly, a leftwing radio host based out of Los Angeles. Kelly claimed that Stone referred to him as a “negro,” a charge that Stone has denied. Having known Stone for nearly a decade, this GP reporter can tell you for a fact that it was not Stone’s voice.

Further, the radio show was plagued by technical difficulties, crossed signals, and feedback from Mo’Kelly’s control room...

Kelly has continued to spread this racial smear against Stone, but Roger Stone tells TGP that he plans to fight the smear and is exploring a lawsuit against the Los Angeles leftwing radio host...ETC
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/roger-stone-responds-racial-smear-leftwing-radio-host/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons


12 posted on 07/20/2020 4:26:22 PM PDT by MAGAthon (g)
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Stone was framed on the so-called “slur”. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I would not personally endorse Roger Stone for anything, but I will NOT condemn his for his virtues. He’s picking a great time in his life to up his game.


13 posted on 07/20/2020 4:29:25 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: FR_addict

That is correct, but obviously it is to this clown.


14 posted on 07/20/2020 4:35:54 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I don’t even understand the exchange there. Was Stone talking to someone on the phone during the interview?


15 posted on 07/20/2020 4:42:26 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength.)
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To: hanamizu

Does the United Negro College Fund promote a slur?


16 posted on 07/20/2020 4:55:58 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Kaslin

The point is that Stone was targeted for prosecution for political reasons. It’s dishonest to claim he was commuted because of his relationship with the president without acknowledging that as the reason he was prosecuted from the beginning.


17 posted on 07/20/2020 5:09:54 PM PDT by marron
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To: Kaslin

Who is this jack@$$?


18 posted on 07/20/2020 5:15:25 PM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply.)
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