Mitch McConnell Flouts Trump, Again Says Russia Should Not Be Allowed in G7

Newsweek ^ | June 30 2020 | JEFFERY MARTIN

[rintintin]

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell flatly rejected on Tuesday the idea of Russia rejoining the Group of Seven (G7). President Donald Trump has suggested allowing Russia to be readmitted to the group of world leaders after it was ousted in 2014 after the annexation of Crimea.

[rrrod]

Sadly I agree

[SmokingJoe]

He ain’t gonna persuade the Korean dwarf blimp to give up his nukes either.

I don't get what your point.
You want Trump to simply March into North Korea and grab their nuclear weapons?
Yeah that will work a treat.
In reality Trump has imposed the toughest sanctions ever on North Korea. Plus met Kim three times to try and work things out. He's done far more than any US President to try and reach peace with North Korea.
Outside of war that's all he can do. Negotiations backed with tough sanctions.

All this servility does is make him look weak. He’s been very hard-line on foreign policy vis-a-vis the country’s adversaries.

He's been extremely tough on both Russia and North Korea.

He should take credit for it with Reagan-style rhetoric.

Except Reagan turned round and negotiated START with Gorbachev. They ended up very fond of each other.

[Caipirabob]

Mcconnels chicom agent wife shouldn’t be permitted in the USA.

[gogeo]

This is why Senators make lousy Presidents. Just how many nuclear powers would Mitch like to pick a fight with?

[reformedliberal]

Everyone bear in mind this is from Newsweek and the progs want to get rid of Mitch. He’s not all that great, but he’s done ok with a few items, like judges.

We do not have Senators to spare and we cannot let them defeat the head of the Senate when we have a slim majority.

The progs love to hear us trash our own.

[Alberta's Child]

The point being that we are supposed to have moved into an era in which countries don’t acquire land by force. Because the moment that happens, then it is legit to punish the aggressor and break his country up, as was done to the Axis powers after WWII.

You must be joking. There isn’t a country in the world over the last 50 years that has been more aggressive against sovereign nations than the United States. Does that mean we are due to be punished and broken up?

Wait — don’t bother answering that. I think I see the answer on TV every evening.

[Zhang Fei]

[NATO has added 12 new member states since Germany was re-unified. It’s remarkable that anyone here would still consider Russia a major threat — especially when we’ve been using their rockets and the former Soviet launch facilities in Kazakhstan to get our astronauts into space for years.]

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And Russia is 20x the land area of those Warsaw Pact states combined. The rocket thing was a major mistake. We gave up our independent satellite launch capability to pander to the Russians. They reciprocated by annexing 1/5 of Georgia. The lesson here is that territorial expansion is part of the Russian national identity. No amount of talking will change that.

The Russians gave up nothing, really, in dissolving the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. They had merely run out of resources to continue their tyranny over lands that did not want them there when they began their occupation. Are we supposed to reward them for pulling out of Afghanistan, too?

[Alas Babylon!]

Bringing up Russian talking points doesn’t really resolve the issue.

So basically, Mr. CCP here is calling you a Russian Stooge.

You made an excellent point, I thought.

We have no reason to treat Russia as an adversary any more than Germany, France or Turkey.

ALL of these countries have interests they must defend, and the other three can be just as brutal, or subtle, but they still aim to get their way.

Yet here we are, with members of his own party, once again defying the President.

[SmokingJoe]

Lots of countries have changed borders throughout history including the ex Yugoslavia (through war), Czechoslovakia and the USSR itself in the past 30 years alone yes.
But the Crimea wasn't sold to the Ukraine or acquired in a war or ceded to Ukraine. It was simply gifted and to them by Stalin because both the Ukraine and Russia were part of the sane country, the USSR. Once the USSR broke up it made sense to take the Crimea back.
Almost all the people of the Ukraine were Russian. They wanted to be part of Russia like they had been for almost 200 years.
I am not going to lose any sleep over Crimea returning to Russia.
It's long past time for Russia and the US to deescalate and move on.
G7 should be G8 and they will be sooner or later.

[Zhang Fei]

[You must be joking. There isn’t a country in the world over the last 50 years that has been more aggressive against sovereign nations than the United States. Does that mean we are due to be punished and broken up? ]

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Which countries has the US annexed in the past 50 years? I don’t understand why so-called libertarians and paleos keep ripping off fraudulent Soviet talking points. I understand it takes time to do your own historical research and to actually think things through rather than regurgitate Howard Zinn’s narratives, but still ...

[Hetuck]

Another reason the Uniparty despises Russia is that they fight Muslim terrorists and oppose a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean, both being projects of the Saudis and/or Qataris who apparently help finance our legislative class.

[dfwgator]

But the Crimea wasn't sold to the Ukraine or acquired in a war or ceded to Ukraine. It was simply gifted and to them by Stalin because both the Ukraine and Russia were part of the sane country, the USSR. Once the USSR broke up it made sense to take the Crimea back.

That was Khrushchev, not Stalin, K was Stalin's boss in Ukraine, and wanted to get their support in his power struggle after Stalin's death.

[SmokingJoe]

Right now I feel I have a heck of a lot more in common with the pro Christian Putin’s Russia than with some of the anti Christian, anti family, anti law and order, pro looting, pro anarchy Dem governors and mayors.

[Fai Mao]

I sort of agree with Mitch on this

[Alberta's Child]

The U.S. doesn’t “annex” countries. We just invade them, occupy them, and prop up a government that will conduct business in U.S. dollars. We also make sure that the first order or business for the new government is to have the state-run airline shut down their fleet of Airbus jets and buy Boeings instead.

Where have you been for the last 30 years, dude?

[Zhang Fei]

[I don’t get what your point.
You want Trump to simply March into North Korea and grab their nuclear weapons?
Yeah that will work a treat.
In reality Trump has imposed the toughest sanctions ever on North Korea. Plus met Kim three times to try and work things out. He’s done far more than any US President to try and reach peace with North Korea.
Outside of war that’s all he can do. Negotiations backed with tough sanctions.]

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I’m saying the verbal servility makes him look bad from an electoral standpoint even though he is, in reality, kicking them under table. The media is stressing the servility, which has an effect on national security voters who are part of the GOP coalition.

“American in Tokyo” is fairly well-informed, well to the right of the typical GOP voter, but disgusted by it. What are independent voters who are far less well-informed and right-wing supposed to think? We know Biden is a far left loon like Obama who talks tough while giving the farm away. But all the average independent voter who doesn’t follow the news much has to go on is “my good friend Xi/Kim/Putin”, which the media hammers home day after day, rather than Trump’s very hard-nosed actions vis-a-vis the countries they rule over.

[ARW]

Well, if we can’t buy them nor acquire by force then are today’s political boundaries forever? And what makes the 2020 map any more “correct” than the one from 1920 especially if the 2020 one has historical anomalies?

[SmokingJoe]

My mistake.
Stalin did die in 1953.

[Zhang Fei]

[The U.S. doesn’t “annex” countries. We just invade them, occupy them, and prop up a government that will conduct business in U.S. dollars. ]

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Yet another Soviet talking point. Seems to me that you swung over from the left, but kept all your left-wing premises.

[Alberta's Child]

We gave up our independent satellite launch capability to pander to the Russians.

Actually, I think we gave up our launch capability to resupply the International Space Station because the NASA shuttle program turned out to be a miserable failure.