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Prof Karol Sikora: Covid-19 death toll may be less than half of what has been recorded
The Telegraph ^ | 11 June 2020 | Jack Hardy

Posted on 06/11/2020 9:39:08 AM PDT by george76

oncologist says medics can too easily put Covid on death certificates

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The Covid-19 death toll may be less than half of what has been recorded because many victims of the pandemic would have died soon anyway, one of Britain's leading medics has said.

Professor Karol Sikora, a senior oncologist who has built a huge Twitter following for his positive takes on the virus crisis, said doctors were sometimes too eager to put Covid-19 on death certificates.

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This was in contrast to Germany, where a death can only be recorded as being caused by Covid-19 when the clinical team involved in the end-of-life care certifies

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: covid; covid19; covid19death; death

1 posted on 06/11/2020 9:39:08 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Odd how this has developed.

When this started I think the number of deaths being reported was low due to official suppression.

Now I believe the number is high due to official manipulation.


2 posted on 06/11/2020 9:42:32 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: george76

Hospitals get a bonus for COVID cases.


3 posted on 06/11/2020 9:44:23 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: george76

For the Love of Pete!!
Those Ratbastards ruined so many lives with their lies. Never again!!


4 posted on 06/11/2020 9:45:52 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: george76

Coronavirus is The Left’s Reichstag Fire. Like Hitler, The Left is pushing more and more, because it thinks the other side will never fight back. Hopefully, like with Hitler, The Left will be proven wrong and then will be defeated once and for all.


5 posted on 06/11/2020 9:50:27 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17
> The Left will be proven wrong and then will be defeated once and for all.

At best we will only be at perpetual "war" with the left since, unlike the leftists, we have a moral compass which prohibits us from mass killing our political enemies...

6 posted on 06/11/2020 9:54:27 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: MeganC

NYC added 4,000+ deaths of those who ‘Never Tested Positive’ to covid death totals.. > for more federal Medicare money..

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/14/nyc-numbers-coronavirus-death-toll/

Dr. Annie Bukacek, MD, explained how death certificates are being manipulated / based on assumptions and guesses that go unquestioned…


7 posted on 06/11/2020 9:57:55 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: TexasGator

Former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson: Massachusetts has suddenly changed the way they are counting coronavirus deaths..


8 posted on 06/11/2020 9:58:23 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Deaths by pneumonia this year are way, way down.


9 posted on 06/11/2020 10:03:01 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72
Deaths by pneumonia this year are way, way down.

See? Face masks and social distancing work...../s

10 posted on 06/11/2020 10:06:02 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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“Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns:

Alex Berenson’s booklet on coronavirus, “Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 1,” became the No. 1 best seller in Amazon’s Kindle Store on Saturday:

Alex Berenson’s coronavirus booklet “Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: hits #1 top spot on Amazon after the online retailer initially rejected it!

Former New York Times reporter and prominent lockdown critic Alex Berenson provides a counterweight to media hysteria about coronavirus in this series of short booklets answering crucial questions about COVID.

Drawing on primary sources from all over the world - including state and national-level government data, Centers for Disease Control reports, and papers in prominent scientific journals - the Essential Guide offers clear, concise, and measured answers to some of the most important questions around the coronavirus:

How are COVID deaths counted?

How many Americans are likely to die in a worst-case scenario?

What is the evidence that lockdowns do or do not help reduce the spread of the illness?

Are masks an effective way to reduce the spread?

Why did the forecasts for coronavirus hospitalizations prove so wrong?
Are children at serious risk from coronavirus?

What has the mental health impact of lockdowns been?

Whether you have been skeptical of the media’s panicked reporting all along or are just starting to wonder why the predictions of doom from March and April have not come to pass, the Essential Guide will provide you with the factual, accurate, and impeccably sourced information you need.

Please note: the Essential Guide will be published in multiple sections. Part 1 includes an introduction, an examination of the way COVID deaths are counted, and a forecast for a potential worst-case scenario of coronavirus deaths in the United States.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alex-no-1

Available via Kindle and Paperback now.
I got the Kindle copy earlier and the Paper back came late yesterday.


11 posted on 06/11/2020 10:06:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Who Decides: Who and What Is Essential and Which Lives Matter? - June 8, 2020 by| Allen West)
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To: AU72

The inpatient stroke unit at Stanford University Medical Center in California usually has 12 to 15 patients, said its director, Dr. Gregory Albers. On one recent day in April, there were none at all, something that had never happened. .

Cleveland Clinic, a man arrived with stroke symptoms... According to Dr. Thomas Waters, an emergency room physician, a man with a stroke had waited two days to come in to the ER because he was afraid of the coronavirus. There was nothing doctors could do to prevent permanent brain damage.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3849137/posts


12 posted on 06/11/2020 10:08:47 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Which would make it less than minimally deadly.


13 posted on 06/11/2020 10:16:15 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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If you’re not in a nursing home, the flu has a higher mortality rate than Covid. That’s a fact. So if you don’t do it for the flu, don’t do it for Covid.

Yes, we’ve been had.


14 posted on 06/11/2020 12:47:43 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a communist plan)
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To: george76

Floyd George died of Corona Virus. Tell me I’m wrong.


15 posted on 06/11/2020 12:48:52 PM PDT by eyedigress (Joe, put your mask on!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables; Grampa Dave

A Colorado mom hospitalized for 21 days died without seeing her husband or two children, despite the family’s repeated requests for an exception to the democrat political policy barring visitors ..

No matter how many times the husband - Reiter asked to visit his wife: Elizabeth, even when the both tested negative for the virus and when he told them he had never seen his wife of 19 years so depressed, and even on Mother’s Day, he was denied. Hospital officials would not make an exception.

Then .. Elizabeth went into cardiac arrest and died.

His sons, he said, are in “absolute shock.”

“They are really hurt that they couldn’t see their mother at any point during the last three weeks,”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3849833/posts


16 posted on 06/11/2020 1:20:16 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: eyedigress

A drunk who died of alcohol poisoning had his death classified as due to the coronavirus.. by democrat politicians..

County Coroner George Deavers and a pathologist determined the cause of death was ethanol toxicity. His blood-alcohol content measured in at 0.55. The legal limit in the state is .08.

A BAC of 0.3 is considered lethal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3844963/posts


17 posted on 06/11/2020 1:30:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Face masks and social distancing work.....

Socialist distancing and hand sanitizer probably do help combat colds, pneumonia and flu. It's only common sense.

The masks and lockdowns are outrageous and should never happen again. These are the handiwork of the RAT control-freaks. Same with testing, the only testing that matters is the antibody test.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump pill (HCQ + zinc) doesn't also stop a lot of "incurable" viral diseases...probably the last thing in the world that the AMA and Big Farmah want the public to know.

18 posted on 06/13/2020 7:23:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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