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Let Them Risk Their Lives
Townhall.com ^ | June 10, 2020 | John Stossel

Posted on 06/10/2020 4:13:09 AM PDT by Kaslin

Deaths from COVID-19 are dropping, but we probably can't resume normal life until someone develops a vaccine. Experts say it will take at least 12 to 18 months.

Why so long?

Because to make sure a vaccine works, researchers must recruit lots of volunteers and wait for them to get sick.

First, they inject the volunteers. Half get the test vaccine; half get a placebo. Then, the test subjects resume their normal lives, and researchers watch to see who gets sick.

For that research to work, there must be enough of the coronavirus around for enough volunteers to get the coronavirus.

But now COVID-19 cases are declining. Researchers worry that there won't be enough sick people to test it on.

Fortunately, there's a way to speed testing up, if regulators allow it. It's called a human challenge trial.

"'Challenge' means that you intentionally expose people to the coronavirus... 'challenging' them with the virus," explains Carson Poltorack in my new video.

Poltorack is a member of One Day Sooner, a group of mostly healthy young people who volunteered to be infected with the coronavirus. So far, 24,000 people from 100 countries have volunteered. They are willing to risk their lives if it means the world get a vaccine sooner.

"It's the right thing to do," says Poltorack.

The idea of a challenge trial is not new. Such trials were used to find treatments for malaria, typhoid, dengue fever and cholera. But there were treatments for those diseases. So far, we have no reliable treatment for COVID-19.

"People your age do die from COVID," I say to Poltorack.

"Absolutely." He responds. "I'm 23. The risk of somebody from 18 to 30 is about 3 in 10,000, the same as if you were to donate a kidney."

Poltorack volunteered after reading a paper where bioethicist Nir Eyal argued that challenge trials would develop a vaccine sooner, without much added risk.

"We put people through risks in clinical trials all the time," says Eyal.

Young people are more likely to take such risks. Some volunteer to fight wars. Fighting this pandemic, say One Day Sooner volunteers, is like that.

One recorded a video where she says it is "maybe the most important thing I will ever do."

But some doctors say it shouldn't be done.

"We need to wait," says Dr. Jennifer Miller, bioethics professor at Yale Medical School.

She says a challenge trial may not save much time. "You have to develop the challenge virus strain... test it in animals... figure out the correct dose. That can take 6 to 18 months."

Maybe. Virologist Stanley Plotkin, developer of the rubella vaccine, says it could take just two months.

I argue that the length of time shouldn't matter. "If individuals want to experiment, shouldn't it be their choice?" I ask Miller. "Why doesn't the volunteer get to say, 'I'm an adult. It's my body, I get to make the decision!?'"

"We have moral limits to what you can do with your freedoms," replies Miller. "We mandate that you wear helmets when you ride bicycles in some states. We say you have to wear a seatbelt for your protection... I'm not sure the added risks to the participants are justified."

"That's a decision that each individual informed volunteer can make for themselves," says Poltorack, wisely.

I obviously agree. I asked Poltorack, "One month's difference in the development of a vaccine could save a thousand lives?"

"No, probably far more than that," he answers. "Probably in the range of tens to hundreds of thousands."

Some bureaucracies have come around to the idea. Recently, the World Health Organization released a paper on challenge trials. Thirty-five members of Congress wrote the FDA asking it to consider a challenge trial.

We adults should be allowed to make our own decisions about what we do with our own bodies.

If some people want to get infected, let them!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; health; vaccine
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1 posted on 06/10/2020 4:13:09 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Absolutely, as John Stossel says:

If some people want to get infected, let them!

2 posted on 06/10/2020 4:15:57 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Wait. 12-18 months. Or less?
Ask our illustrious Fearlper ExDemom. It will take 10 years! She has a textbook!

Also if not for the tyranny of the lockdown we would have 200 million cases! She has her own calculator. Never mind there are only 7 million cases worldwide!!

The point is that the attempt to abridge freedom is intact the most awful choice possible. But we have our own virus life matters Fearpers who are aiding and abetting the enemy and saying it with the authority of stolen credentials and intelligence.


3 posted on 06/10/2020 4:20:24 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Kaslin

I read that researchers in a hurry are willing to accept up to a 20% chance of vaccine injury ....more people could suffer from the results of the vaccine than the WuFlu

The swine flu vaccine was a disaster


4 posted on 06/10/2020 4:22:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: gas_dr

Your vociferous ignorance is showing


5 posted on 06/10/2020 4:23:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Kaslin

Deaths from COVID-19 are dropping, but we probably can’t resume normal life until someone develops a vaccine.


Baloney. I’ve never had a flu shot, I’66. My wife, the same age, hasn’t either. Two years ago she got the flu. Four weeks of hell. I took care of her. She’s fine.

Same thing happened to my brother in Seattle. For him it was six weeks, an ER visit, and he HAD had a flu shot.

We live with pandemics every day. This is just another one and, thank God, it strongly focuses on the very old.

Do you know why our culture is so petrified? Because there is so little Christianity left that people forget this life is very short and will end. It’s all they have and want it to continue indefinitely.

A Christian culture would take it in stride.


6 posted on 06/10/2020 4:28:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: bert

If I have said something wrong tell me. Of course you can’t Because all you habit s a lifetime appointment to the Fearper wall of fame.


7 posted on 06/10/2020 4:32:22 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bert

Your vociferous ignorance is showing


I rarely see such ad hominem attacks on Freerepublic. What’s going on?


8 posted on 06/10/2020 4:34:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

9 posted on 06/10/2020 4:43:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: gas_dr

Great post!


10 posted on 06/10/2020 4:44:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: bert

Bert you got the sniffles yet?


11 posted on 06/10/2020 4:45:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Kaslin

I actually signed up for that possibility — the “human challenge” trial thingy - deliberate exposure to the Chinese Frankenvirus. However, they seem to be going for the 18 to 30 crowd at the moment. Can’t blame ‘em — they’re the healthiest.


12 posted on 06/10/2020 4:46:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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To: cuban leaf

I have had Flu shots for years, because it was recommend at the Blanchfield Army Hospital at Fort Campbell, Ky (BACH) for short. I stopped taking them when I realized that the last time I had the flu was when I was 17 years old. I will 79 in August.


13 posted on 06/10/2020 4:53:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: bert

I see you are only capable of a hit and run attack. It’s sad. I asked you to testify to the wrong that I have said and you can’t. Because I have said nothing wrong.

It appears there is only one person between the two of us with vociferous ignorance. And it is not me.


14 posted on 06/10/2020 5:06:04 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: cuban leaf

The feapers are full
Of ad hominem attacks. It’s all you have when the facts are against you


15 posted on 06/10/2020 5:10:08 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

The feapers are full Of ad hominem attacks.


But time has proven them wrong. I don’t get it.


16 posted on 06/10/2020 5:13:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: gas_dr
The feapers are full Of ad hominem attacks.

Oh, the irony.

17 posted on 06/10/2020 5:15:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cuban leaf
Do you know why our culture is so petrified? Because there is so little Christianity left that people forget this life is very short and will end. It’s all they have and want it to continue indefinitely.

Yep. And this world will continue to get worse, not better.
18 posted on 06/10/2020 5:16:32 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Systemic racism doesn't exist, but systemic stupidity is thriving.)
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To: cuban leaf

Because self absorbed narcissists cannot admit time being wrong.


19 posted on 06/10/2020 5:19:34 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bert

really. How many covid cases have you treated?


20 posted on 06/10/2020 5:23:31 AM PDT by Mom MD
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